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Floyd Mayweather, Jr. versus Manny Pacquiao: Who’s Bad?
January 10, 2010 · Filed Under Featured, Opinion Articles, Submitted Articles
By Mitsuru

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The proposed mega fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, Jr scheduled on March 13, 2010 is definitely off owing to disagreements in both camps on the how the contentious and controversial drug testing will be done and what agency will handle it.

Let us look back and answer some issues that contributed as to why the said mega fight went kaput.

Bad Blood

There was bad blood between both sides and they were wary of each other’s intentions and sincerity from the very beginning. It did not bode well that Floyd Mayweather, Jr has a bad history with Bob Arum and so does Manny Pacquiao with Golden Boy Promotions. Add the fact that Pacquiao gave Oscar de la Hoya, GBP’s owner, the beating of his life and turned his pretty face into a punching bag.

Also, Freddie Roach and Pacquiao terribly embarrassed the Floyd Mayweather, Sr- trained Ricky Hatton in just two rounds that made Mayweather, Sr cope out on the Mancunian fighter by blaming him of not listening to his instructions instead of his poor fight plan and strategy.

After these two fights, rumors began to swirl around about Manny Pacquiao’s alleged steroid use without any evidence to show but mainly coming from Mayweather, Sr.’s mouth that was soon picked up by fighters with hidden agenda, some people with an axe to grind, and some media people who are skeptical of Team Pacquiao’s success.

Bad Intentions

Pacquiao shamed Oscar de la Hoya when he made him quit on his stool in the 8th round of their fight that Oscar was predicted to win handily. The Golden Boy’s image was tarnished and he still cannot get over the fact that the last image of him being remembered was of a defeated man sitting forlornly in his corner while Team Pacquiao and the boxing world were celebrating around him.

Oscar de la Hoya’s huge ego was irreversibly pricked when Freddie Roach proved to the whole world that he “can no longer pull the trigger”, and was made worse when Pacquiao made him eat his word. Who can forget what he told Pacquiao during one of the press conferences before the fight, “I will knock you out“?

And after proclaiming to anybody who cared to listen after his surrender that Pacquiao’s punches had no power at all and that he could’ve have stood there all night and Pacquiao would not be able to knock him out, he made a 180 degree turn around and wrote in his blog that, “Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself. Wow, those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same!”

Thus, we can forgive his conflicting statements since he was on the receiving end of many powerful and wicked blows to the head in his fight with Pacquiao and could have resulted into him not being his old self. Now, we have to wonder if he is the same sane old man that he believe is.

Bad Education

Manny Pacquaio’s accusers lack the necessary smarts to understand the nature of anabolic steroids and human-growth hormones and their functions and effects on the body. They don’t possess the necessary educational attainment to even understand the essence of what they are talking about.

Floyd Mayweather, Sr. who started the ball rolling never finished high school to have even an iota of understanding the basics of what he is accusing Pacquiao of doing. Obviously, Team Mayweather lacks the knowledge to separate the facts from fiction regarding the tests that they are demanding.

First, they asked for blood tests to look for steroids in Manny Pacquiao’s blood. Manny Pacquiao agreed to 3 tests that are not even part of the mandated drug testing by the NSAC, the sole authority in conducting such tests on fighters in the State of Nevada. When told that this could be done through urinalysis, they changed their tune and now added Human- Growth Hormones (hGH) to the lot. While it’s true that hGH can be detected in one’s blood, contrary to popular beliefs hGH can also be detected in the urine by using molecular ‘markers’ to detect its presence in the urine in this day and age.

I will not be surprised if they will raise the EPO- question in the future. This is an obvious witch- hunt that Team Pacquiao did not tolerate. More so, a ludicrous demand coming from a fighter who belittles Manny Pacquiao’s skills and says that he will “whip the Pacman’s punk ***“.

Bad Company

Team Pacquiao is not known to harbor people with questionable characters in their midst . Team Pacquiao has no links to companies with bad reputations. They have not been involved nor linked in any controversies in and out of the ring. Team Pacquiao has no links to laboratories/ companies like BALCO nor to any dirty and unsavory characters both at present and in the past.

Freddie Roach is as straight a shooter as you can get. He is so transparent and speaks his mind out without regard for anything. He is the “what you see is what you get” kind of guy.

Conditioning coach Alex Ariza who admitted that he prepared everything that he gave to Manny Pacquiao himself. He said that if there is any person in the team that should know what goes into Pacquiao’s system, it should be him. His record is impeccable and speaks for itself.

Alex Ariza, who was obviously irritated by the issue, said in an interview -

“I didn’t really do any interviews before this because I didn’t feel it warranted it. But I’ve seen stories like Lou DiBella said that members of Team Pacquiao have a history of steroid use? Show me. Where’s his paperwork that leads to BALCO? I’ve worked with Diego Corrales, Erik Morales, Angel Manfredy. None of those guys has ever even tested for a diuretic, cold medication, antibiotics, nothing. I don’t give any of my fighters that would be considered illegal or a performance enhancing drug. I don’t know where people are coming up that I’m linked to BALCO. I’ve never been associated or questioned about anything.”

As for Team Mayweather, I’ll just give you three names and I believed no further explanations are necessary to put the message across - Floyd Mayweather, Sr., Roger Mayweather and Richard Schaefer.

Bad Reputation

Manny Pacquiao earned the mythical P4P title the hard way. He persevered against the odds and fought his way to the top against worthy and world class opponents. The list of his victims are worthy of Hall of Fame status themselves. He may have been involved in some controversies in the past with regards to his dalliances with show business but his record in and out of the ring when it comes to the sport is spotless. He quietly made his mark and fought the best there is.

On the other hand, Floyd Mayweather, Jr.’s reputation in and out of the ring left something to be desired. His name was mentioned in relation to a shooting incident in a Las Vegas skating rink and his mansion and limo were subjected to a weapons search by authorities. The IRS is after him for several years now and also has several pending cases for foreclosures in court. Recently, he and his entourage were involved in a night club scuffle with a rapper and his crew.

True, Mayweather fought some good fighters like Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo (although he was gifted a win in their first fight) when he was still in the lower weight divisions but as he scaled the weights he was also accused of cherry- picking his opponents to preserve the “0” in his record. His most impressive win in the last 5 years was the 8th round knockout of Ricky Hatton who was fighting out of his natural weight for the first time.

His biggest fight was an unimpressive split decision win over Oscar de la Hoya wherein de la Hoya, learning from his mistakes in the first fight, could have whipped his *** the moment they faced again but he never gave him the rematch. So, that is subject to debate until now.

His comeback fight against a very bloated Juan Manuel Marquez (which earned him the laughable no. 1 P4P ranking over Pacquiao from Yahoo Sports for some time) is nothing spectacular either. It did not sit well to boxing fans that he came out two pounds over the catch weight limit and refused the customary weigh-in again on fight night. Although he showed his vaunted defensive skills in that fight, the fans were dissatisfied when he failed to engage and knockout the smaller Mexican.

While Manny Pacquiao continues to take on all- comers throughout his career, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fought patsies and second- tier fighters while dancing en route to victory. He conveniently ducked the people who could have challenged his skills and defined him as a fighter. Mosley, Margarito, Cotto and Williams are just some of the names that could have cemented his legacy, but rather than facing them in the ring, he opted to retire.

Bad Mouth

Manny Pacquiao is a soft- spoken person and is not known to bad mouth his opponents. He respects his opponents even if some of his opponents disrespect him. He just smiles at all the trash talk and lets his fist do the talking inside the ring.

Floyd Mayweather, Jr. shoots from his mouth without regard for anything. He brags about his ‘greatness’ and trash talks anyone that he wants to or got in his way. Everyone is fair game to him and he will disrespect everyone if it will suit and further his cause.

Consider Floyd mumbo-jumbos on fighting Pacquiao-

“He has to call me out first- he knows he can’t beat me- it will be an easier fight than Marquez- 60-40- I’m the best fighter of all time- God doesn’t want me to lose- I’ll promise I’ll fight Mosley instead”

When Pacquiao called out his bluff, he proposed an unprecedented and unparalleled Olympic- style testing which no boxing commission in the United States uses despite the fact that the Nevada State Athletic Commission has the most sophisticated testing facilities and the most stringent measures in drug testing.

If he thinks Pacquiao will be of no match to him, why be adamant with his senseless demands since he once admitted that he was the bigger man, anyway? Why not just sign the contract and prove that he is the greatest fighter of all time inside the square ring?

Sadly, for all of Floyd Mayweather, Jr.’s pronouncemens, deep inside he is afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao and lose his cherished “0” to the Pacman. For all of his braggadocio, deep inside he is a big coward. Floyd Mayweather, Jr should remember that being a loud-mouth will not gain him respect. He should also take to heart the old saying that “Still water runs deep.”
 
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Pacman will beat the hell out of Floyd! Floyd will regret the day that he came back from retirement.
 


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They're both great boxers, speed vs speed... This should be an interesting match indeed.
 

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mayweather got no power compared to pacman

pacman all the way.
 


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this thread was made WAY too early.



as much as I like Pacman, Mayweather will win this one. Mayweather will do the same as he does in all his fights and avoid Pacman's punches, keeping his distance with his longer reach.



Pacman is not invincible and has lost before. Mayweather fights smart, he fights to win, not to for show. He could care less how boring the fight is, just as long as he wins.
 

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Mayweather is more athletic than Manny. Floyd throws quicker jabs, his body control is better than Manny obviously. But Manny has better foot speed, faster and more powerful combination punches..You got to have speed and power to beat Floyd. You gotta wear him down to beat him, that means you got to have tremendous stamina, and all the attributes of a fighter that can beat Floyd, Manny posseses..If Manny can't wear down or hurt Floyd, then theres a chance Floyd would win. But I doubt Floyd can slow down Manny especially on what Manny showed against Cotto. Mayweather has the best defense, but I think if Pac can break his armor we're going to see Mayweather crack. It will be sooooo worth the money to see Mayweather crumble under the punishment of Manny's fist!
 

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SNEAK PEEK: FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. IN INTERVIEW MAGAZINE
by SC on Dec 11, 2009, Bad Left Hook, 6:57 PM EST
http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/11/1196829/sneak-peek-floyd-mayweather-jr-in
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The people at Interview Magazine have been kind enough to share a sneak peek at their big feature on Floyd Mayweather Jr., which will hit newsstands on December 15. You can read the full article, check out a video, and take a look at the photos from the feature (one of which is seen to your right) at the magazine's web site.

The interview took place before the Cotto-Pacquiao fight, so Mayweather-Pacquiao wasn't set up as it is now, but you still get some interesting bits from Mayweather on growing up, on how he sees his career, on what he fights for (money, glory, or both?) and other stuff. Plus on two occasions, he pulls a total Floyd move and talks to someone else in the room about Gucci jackets and Bentleys and how much money he has. Just totally off the cuff! It's so believable!

It's an interesting interview, conducted by Jonathan Ames, the creator of the HBO show "Bored to Death," and worth reading. Without sounding weird, the cultural gap (or whatever you might want to call it) between Ames and Mayweather makes for the sort of discussion you don't generally get when Floyd is interviewed by a boxing writer or a sports broadcaster. Ames and Mayweather aren't really from the same world, in some regards, and that makes for a unique back-and-forth, which I found fun to read.

Probably my favorite part, first part a choice Floyd moment (where it seems like he's being 100% honest) and the second part an example of the interviewer-interviewee dynamic I was talking about:

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Excerpt of interview:


AMES: Well, by saying, “I’m the greatest ever,” what’s cool is that it sounds like—

MAYWEATHER: No, no, no. I’m saying I’m the best ever. Ali said he was the greatest of all time, but I say I’m the best ever. You know, everybody has a slogan, and once you beat people over the head with it so much, then that’s what you’ll eventually be called once you retire from the sport or whatever. But the only way that you can make a statement like that true—the only way that it is true—is if you’re doing what you say you’re doing. You get a lot of fighters that talk a lot of trash, but they can’t back it up. I’ve backed up what I’ve said thus far, and I am in a position now to say that I am one of the best—if not the best. A lot of times, in the beginning of my career, I put pressure on myself just because I wanted to perform so well. I just wanted to be perfect.

AMES: I saw some quote from you, and I don’t mean to touch on this, but—

MAYWEATHER: Well, if you don’t mean to do it, then don’t do it!

AMES: No, well, it’s an emotional—

MAYWEATHER: People always say, “I don’t mean to do this . . . ,” and then they do it! If you don’t mean to touch on it, then don’t touch on it. That’s how I feel.
 

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mayweathers camp havnt signed the contract yet but i think they wanted to play on 147 catchweight..
 

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An excerpt from a recent article...
......Misconception 2: Punchers are Born

Everyone’s heard this one: punchers are born not made! Oh, really, says who? In fact, this is boxings biggest lie.

I’m not, not for one second, claiming there’s no such thing as a born puncher: boxing history is stacked with fighters who had natural KO power. Nevertheless, perhaps more so, our great-sports history has many examples of people who developed their power through fastidious practice. Surprisingly, for some, many peoples hardest left hooker of all time later claimed his punch only came through training. His name? The Manassa Mauler!

Perhaps the bible for hard punching instruction is Jack Dempseys Championship Fighting. In this text, the Manassa Mauler explains in great detail the mechanics of the KO punch and the training methods to achieve it. According to Jack Dempsey: damaging punches come from an explosive follow-through on the target you’re hitting. Dempsey said, for instance, to land a powerful left jab [Dempsey called it the left jolt] you needed to do the trigger step footwork where your body literally explodes into the punch. Dempseys left hook was short and very powerful Bert Sugar reckons it was harder than Joe Fraziers and in his book he describes how to land it. With the elbow sharply bent, and the body rapidly moving into the punch through Dempseys method of getting every ounce of weight behind every technique. Thus, Dempsey claimed, the reason some fighters are non-punchers is they simply don’t know how to punch...I agree.

Famously, an example of a person who was taught to punch was the all-time-great Tommy Hearns. The Hit Man before he turned professional was a light punching mover, but Hearns was lucky: His trainer, Emanuel Steward, believed you could develop power and drilled The Hitman to distraction. Eventually, from intense practice, Hearns became, perhaps, the hardest hitting Welterweight ever. So its true, some punchers are born, but if you think you cant develop power, you are completely wrong. As, the greatest ever featherweight, Sandy Sadler said: I punched hard because I KNEW how to punch correctly...

To view the whole story
Click here>> http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=20095&more=1
 

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FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR.: "I DEFINITELY WANT PACQUIAO TO GIVE BLOOD!"

"Yeah, I definitely want Pacquiao to give blood. How is that going to affect him mentally? You could give blood a day before the fight and it wouldn't affect you, let alone 3 weeks out. Something isn't right man and we're going to make sure everything is copacetic," stated world-class trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. as he shared his thoughts on the Olympic-style drug testing that both fighters have agreed to undertake leading up to their highly-anticipated showdown. Although Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, said he had no problems whatsoever with the testing, he did admit to having an issue with blood being drawn from his fighter six weeks prior to the fight. According to Roach, that could affect Pacquiao mentally. Mayweather Sr., however, strongly disagrees.

read more
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content6540.html
 

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well according to Pacman's promoters..... the fight is off :shock:





I guess Pacman does not want to submit to olympic style drug tests. :thumbdown
 


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