i havent read most of this forum, but i did see how you were converting to the stock look, and i promise you thats the best decision youll ever make. theres just too many wannabes out there with body kits and all that garbage that give honda owners a bad name. you can have a stock look, and still have it really clean. and plus, you could add a lip or anything like that to make it look better. civics dont need a lot to look good. since ive bought mine ive lowered it, put on s.i. tailights, a new lip, rims, and a new grill. mines a 6th gen but still, havin no body kit will make it look soo much better. save up some money and do a swap or boost it and make it a real respectable ride. good luck and keep this thread updated. heres my 98