Resurrecting the Dream/civhatch92 [REbuild]

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Hey man as bad as this sounds have you ran with no thermostat for a day? it wont hurt anything since it will let the water just flow.... also ur heater core is it clogged by chance? have u checked the temp of all the hoses to make sure it is flowing?
 

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dude you better not ditch the civic, ill be mad lol
F that cop man
He didnt hear your exhaust, he heard wastegate and prolly thought it was exhaust. Plain and simple a turbo'd car with a 3" is gonna be quieter then say an na car with even just a 2.25 inch exhaust with even a cat. My car is only loud when wastegate is open. Id say f the cop and take the car to the station and have them test the sound decibel and im almost sure you will be fine. A turbo acts as a giant muffler. They shoulda noticed that when you were sitting still or hell i woulda even revved it for him to prove its not loud. anyway good luck dude and ill talk to ya soon
I still need to try and convince ya to make a trip down to Hanover or hell even make a trip down for that car show at the end of august lol
Well I was kinda on it when I passed the cop.. it was dark.. I didn't know it was a cop. Therefore the wastegate was dumping big time ha ha ha.

whats causing the overheating? Think you need a bigger slim fan maybe? I figured that heat wrap would set you straight
I've got a pretty big fan/radiator in there already... I thought the wrap would solve the problem too.

Man your car is soooo sick you can NOT get rid of it.. if you do I want it! lol... As far as the heating, have you ran a true temp gauge and not the stock gauge? Also LOVE the rap, I know it can get moisture on the pipes and ruin them but not sure how long thatll take!
Yes I do have a real temperature gauge installed.. go back a few pages there's a pic of it somewhere.


ive read this build for a while now, but never posted. love your hatch man!

as for the overheating, are you running head bolts or arp headstuds? also, what headgasket are you running?
I'm running ARP studs and OEM Honda headgasket which was recommended by my tuner (Evans Tuning)

Hey man as bad as this sounds have you ran with no thermostat for a day? it wont hurt anything since it will let the water just flow.... also ur heater core is it clogged by chance? have u checked the temp of all the hoses to make sure it is flowing?
I don't think it's clogged no... the hoses are definitely all hot when it's running!

Maybe I'll just wait until summer is over and hope it runs cooler in the Fall... hahaha..
 


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Okay so I do remember you getting a gauge, so here is my 2 cents, don't take it the wrong way, I am trying to help. I ran those before and I found they were not accurate, I would recommend getting a better gauge? Maybe a Greddy, or even a Auto Meter... Just my thought... But I would still say something could be clogged... Im stumped :(
 

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ive got it, mount the radiator fan on the other side to pull that air out of the engine bay. I remember my slim 12" fan used to kick up the temp pretty damn bad being mounted on the inside. That should at least help anyway.
 


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ive got it, mount the radiator fan on the other side to pull that air out of the engine bay. I remember my slim 12" fan used to kick up the temp pretty damn bad being mounted on the inside. That should at least help anyway.
I'm not sure sure it will fit on the other side of the radiator... hmm... do you think this would work much better? The way I see it.. if it's trying to suck the air out the front, as I'm driving the same air is jut going to get pushed back in... making the fan work harder and possibly blowing it?
 

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I am not bashing the statement because I have seen crazier things in my life... But I don't see that working, or it would be like that on all cars... The point of the fan is to suck cool air across the radiator cooling the fins which cools the liquid which then cools the engine, I am pretty sure that you should be more worried about pulling cool air in than pulling Hot air across the rad causing it to go up in temp.... Again I could be wrong, but the idea of it doesn't add up at all... Maybe you need a bigger fan?
 

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Now the one thing I do see helping, go get another slim Fan and reverse the flow to have it push through the radiator and the one you have pulling, that should cool it really good....
 

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My dad's thinking about putting in a flow restricter in the top hose to help stop the coolant from flowing too fast, hopefully allowing it to cool better. If that's a failure.. going to resort to throwing in a fan shroud. Man, this s**t just got expensive again.
 

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OKay but if you restrict the flow that defeats the purpose of the flow portion, the more flow the better it should cool right? I was also going to suggest the shroud... But that gets pricey... What about the Cooling plate?
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=182354

I know some of this may sound odd but I am just trying to throw ideas lol

What about running without a hood for a few just around the neighborhood for a bit to see how she runs, maybe look into getting a vented hood?
 

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My thought


ever thought bout that? i know from buddies experience it worked very well for him
 

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My thought


ever thought bout that? i know from buddies experience it worked very well for him
My dad is VERY against that option.. I mentioned it... along with getting another hood and just cutting some holes in it above the manifold to let the air escape... he said NO to that as well. I really just don't know anymore; I thought a super sleeper turbo civic was possible.. but now I'm having second guesses.
 

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LOL curious, why is your dad against the options? Just curious...

As far as the raised hood I have heard bad thoughts on that, there is a thread here.. Not sure if it is true that says it raised the temps? Dont know how but that was the thread...
 

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i think the above option i mentioned is best...talk it through with your dad..at least try it..if it helps talk about it more if it doesnt just remove the spacers..cheapest route mentioned thus far? :what:
 

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i think the above option i mentioned is best...talk it through with your dad..at least try it..if it helps talk about it more if it doesnt just remove the spacers..cheapest route mentioned thus far? :what:
Agreed it is a cheap route, worst case your out 1.40 for washers.... Try it out, I heard it doesn't work but worth a shot!
 

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some vehicles (usually larger ones) have their fans mounted on the front side of the radiator...and ive seen a few boosted cars running them that way. Thats why i mentioned it. =/
 

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some vehicles (usually larger ones) have their fans mounted on the front side of the radiator...and ive seen a few boosted cars running them that way. Thats why i mentioned it. =/
Right but I was saying running the fan to pull the air from the bay would not be good, I think if you still have it on the outside forcing air in would be the same as pulling it unless you have one each side which would double the air flow, or just make it more forceful? :lol:
 

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I'm running ARP studs and OEM Honda headgasket which was recommended by my tuner (Evans Tuning)

I don't think it's clogged no... the hoses are definitely all hot when it's running!

Maybe I'll just wait until summer is over and hope it runs cooler in the Fall... hahaha..
did you go back and re-torque them after a few hundred miles? if not, you may be experiencing head lift...
 

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oh wow this build is very nice, gotta love those headers
 

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Too lazy to quote everyone right now.. but anyways..

Looked into the JDM hood prop.. it won't have a benefit for my use since my manifold is so far up in the bay. Miatas benefit more because the intake is located near the firewall, thus allowing it to suck air in through the lifted hood in the rear.

Put in a freeze plug with the center drilled out somewhat to try and slow coolant flow to allow better cooling.. thus far no real benefit.. might try a smaller hole tomorrow.

Looking into getting a 13" SPAL 1710CFM fan and building a shroud for it...

I REALLY wanted this to be done friday for when I head off to Jersey for the weekend... so I could take it to Honda day at Englishtown... Please let there be hope.. I'll need to next day air any and all parts needed... bank accounts going to take a hit on this one again ha ha ha!!


In other good news... the police called my house Sunday night regarding me being pulled over a few weeks ago... basically the officer said he wasn't going to take me to court, and that he actually really liked my car... said "it looked VERY clean and was actually done the right way" ::thumbs up woo thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu police for letting me win this one!!!
 

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did you go back and re-torque them after a few hundred miles? if not, you may be experiencing head lift...
i say getting a good fan would also help aid in cooling. make sure its moving the correct direction, and a shroud could help too.
not sure if you have a name brand radiator or not, but a cheap one could have an internal leak thats causing the problems.
 


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