RonJ
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Your opinion is based on the fact that you don't care about the tech side.
Does site moderation exist here?
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If the monkeys are not being managed, then there is a problem.
I dont think ive seen this many back to back replys from mods ever on here since ive joined, way to kick a hive Ron. I will say i love the aspect of CC community title. Even though im i dont seem to quite fit in on that level here since i dont interact much with many other members, seeing how im on here like everyday, i will say i have searched and found many of my own personaly tech questions by browsing the old threads. Overall i think CC is a fairly rounded Honda sight.
I know it might be a bit late in the game for me to toss in my $.02.
As to the monkeys...they are like roaches...you can never get rid of them...almost.
I know it might be a bit late in the game for me to toss in my $.02.
As to the monkeys...they are like roaches...you can never get rid of them...almost.
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Only 2 of us replied...
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086head - If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, we will always reply. I'm a PM away, and I answer all of my PMs within 24 hours at a maximum.
Ron - We will always listen to suggestions / comments / rants, etc. And as you know from personal experience, we will take them back to the mod lounge and give them thorough, exhaustive, and even argumentative discussion. However, if you present the suggestions in a disrespectful manner, you shouldn't expect an overly accommodating response.
You also shouldn't expect that your suggestion will necessarily create action. If the logistics are too complex to feasibly execute the suggestion, the fix is implausible. LIkewise, many of the moderators have an extensive history on CC and have seen many things tried in the past. Sometimes ideas are worth retrying (god knows we've tried ROTM to death, and will likely try it again), but other times we already know the outcome of the suggested action. No moderator acts alone, and without a majority vote, we do not move forward with an idea.
Everyone on the staff would like to see an improved tech section, but there just isn't a clear way of improving it. Honestly, we need about 5 more members like you that have expanded tech knowledge and are willing to share. As a staff, we've organized, re-organized, and organized again the tech sections since I've been a CC member. We thought different layouts would fix the issue. They didn't, and we ended up doing a lot of work for no improvement (probably over 100 hours of work exclusively in thread moving)
We tried making the official site DIYs to create well-organized, panel approved DIY articles. This has been managed in a similar ways to how scientific articles are approved for journals and proceedings. While it is slowly creating a repository of high-value DIYs, we don't have the tech member base to really take advantage of this system, and that is ultimately the problem. We simply don't have the tech-minded member base. We've tried advertising on different sites to get them here. We've tried word of mouth. We've tried flyers by hand.
It's difficult to get them to come and stay. The unfortunate issue is that tech members come and then complain that they have to answer tech questions. They say "this has been asked a million times before and I'm sick of answering it." They only want to answer threads with new questions. Unfortunately, there really aren't many new questions to be asked. Almost everything that can be asked has been asked on ClubCivic. They tell the members to search. Well, if members search, they will find the answers to all of their questions and we have a dead tech section. If members don't search, people complain about their questions. The questions don't get answered, and the member finds a new site that will answer the questions.
This is the core of the problem and a fix is not immediately apparent, beyond the tech-minded members policing themselves.
Ron - We will always listen to suggestions / comments / rants, etc. And as you know from personal experience, we will take them back to the mod lounge and give them thorough, exhaustive, and even argumentative discussion. However, if you present the suggestions in a disrespectful manner, you shouldn't expect an overly accommodating response.
You also shouldn't expect that your suggestion will necessarily create action. If the logistics are too complex to feasibly execute the suggestion, the fix is implausible. LIkewise, many of the moderators have an extensive history on CC and have seen many things tried in the past. Sometimes ideas are worth retrying (god knows we've tried ROTM to death, and will likely try it again), but other times we already know the outcome of the suggested action. No moderator acts alone, and without a majority vote, we do not move forward with an idea.
Everyone on the staff would like to see an improved tech section, but there just isn't a clear way of improving it. Honestly, we need about 5 more members like you that have expanded tech knowledge and are willing to share. As a staff, we've organized, re-organized, and organized again the tech sections since I've been a CC member. We thought different layouts would fix the issue. They didn't, and we ended up doing a lot of work for no improvement (probably over 100 hours of work exclusively in thread moving)
We tried making the official site DIYs to create well-organized, panel approved DIY articles. This has been managed in a similar ways to how scientific articles are approved for journals and proceedings. While it is slowly creating a repository of high-value DIYs, we don't have the tech member base to really take advantage of this system, and that is ultimately the problem. We simply don't have the tech-minded member base. We've tried advertising on different sites to get them here. We've tried word of mouth. We've tried flyers by hand.
It's difficult to get them to come and stay. The unfortunate issue is that tech members come and then complain that they have to answer tech questions. They say "this has been asked a million times before and I'm sick of answering it." They only want to answer threads with new questions. Unfortunately, there really aren't many new questions to be asked. Almost everything that can be asked has been asked on ClubCivic. They tell the members to search. Well, if members search, they will find the answers to all of their questions and we have a dead tech section. If members don't search, people complain about their questions. The questions don't get answered, and the member finds a new site that will answer the questions.
This is the core of the problem and a fix is not immediately apparent, beyond the tech-minded members policing themselves.
Their is still the occasionally new question brought up. Im personally one to try searching on google before starting a thread to ask a question. Just a quick question though, to recall saying we needed more tech mods why has child not been given a mod seat or has it been offered and denied.
awww bummmer, i hope the mod lounge got a kick out of itTom - we've received your reported post and have decided not to act on it, as it does not break any CC site rules.
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^^I did.
Failsafe - yea, but occasional questions do not breed activity. They create a mostly dead forum if they are the only activity in that forum. With your question about Child, I'm looking into it. I don't remember if he has been discussed or not, but I'll figure it out. I can't promise you an answer, as we generally don't like to openly discuss mod nominees in the public forum, for obvious reasons, but I'll look into it further.
Failsafe - yea, but occasional questions do not breed activity. They create a mostly dead forum if they are the only activity in that forum. With your question about Child, I'm looking into it. I don't remember if he has been discussed or not, but I'll figure it out. I can't promise you an answer, as we generally don't like to openly discuss mod nominees in the public forum, for obvious reasons, but I'll look into it further.
Joe im not going to go through your huge book just to quote one sentence buuut the reason i dont post in tech as much is because of what i stated.
It gets old posting the same answers and noobs cant handle any sense of humor in a reply. I come here to f**k around and i try to help as much as possible but i get sick of searching for people or posting the same thing 10 times a day.
This is the reason y the off topic threads thrive here. You can talk about anything and give people s**t because the same stuff isnt being talked about.
s**t, i have a complete one off build on a civic site and it still doesnt get much love. Its just the nature if the beast. A pretty retarded beast. But a beast nonetheless...
It gets old posting the same answers and noobs cant handle any sense of humor in a reply. I come here to f**k around and i try to help as much as possible but i get sick of searching for people or posting the same thing 10 times a day.
This is the reason y the off topic threads thrive here. You can talk about anything and give people s**t because the same stuff isnt being talked about.
s**t, i have a complete one off build on a civic site and it still doesnt get much love. Its just the nature if the beast. A pretty retarded beast. But a beast nonetheless...
Shrek on meth beast???
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I think you pretty much agreed with / confirmed my post.
Ahh RonJ. In the minimal time I've been here (2 years now), I've seen him help people, complain, throw a fit, leave, and come back. Dude is a plethora of knowledge, but a finicky one.
I hear CC get compared to Honda-Tech regularly, both here, and on other forums (EJ8Squad etc.). They represent two different ends of the spectrum, but they also represent two entirely different cliques/groups in the aftermarket Honda industry: The H-T guys are, for the most part, kind of elitist, and feel they reign supreme. Here at CC, I find more regular people who have a love for their cars. I prefer the comradery here as opposed to the attitude/s**t talking that is spewed in 90% of the H-T threads. You can claim I have sand in my vagina, but that's not the case. If I wanted to make a bunch of dipshits behind a keyboard feel inferior, I would. That's not my agenda. I come to learn, to interact with a community, and to gain influence from the progress of others.
Ron, there's a reason you keep coming back. I'll leave it at that.
I hear CC get compared to Honda-Tech regularly, both here, and on other forums (EJ8Squad etc.). They represent two different ends of the spectrum, but they also represent two entirely different cliques/groups in the aftermarket Honda industry: The H-T guys are, for the most part, kind of elitist, and feel they reign supreme. Here at CC, I find more regular people who have a love for their cars. I prefer the comradery here as opposed to the attitude/s**t talking that is spewed in 90% of the H-T threads. You can claim I have sand in my vagina, but that's not the case. If I wanted to make a bunch of dipshits behind a keyboard feel inferior, I would. That's not my agenda. I come to learn, to interact with a community, and to gain influence from the progress of others.
Ron, there's a reason you keep coming back. I'll leave it at that.
I miss Ron... He always has a way with words that just makes me feel itchy. 
Itchy or feisty.
Itchy, def itchy.
RonJ
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I'm reading many valid points...
...though this is the first time to my recollection that I've been likened to a rash:
...though this is the first time to my recollection that I've been likened to a rash:
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I may not post a lot in it but I check your thread every day...
A rash on my ass that never goes away...I'm reading many valid points...
...though this is the first time to my recollection that I've been likened to a rash:
I still like you anywayz.
Sounds more like hemroids or aidsA rash on my ass that never goes away...
I still like you anywayz.