AC Compressor not spinning

Cirevam

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Hey all,

I have a 91 Civic DX, and I recently went to a local shop to get the AC system charged since there's a slow leak somewhere (charged it two years ago at a different place and I had no cold air the year after). They asked me if I wanted to convert it to r134a since r12 is "about $200 per pound" and the conversion plus charge was under $300. I figured it would be worth it since I heard about the whole "oh no r12 is ruining the ozone," so I had them do all that, and when I got it back the blower was pushing hot air even with it turned all the way to cold. Figuring the heater switch was stuck on, I bypassed it completely by moving a hose and now it's just blowing air-temperature air. No chill yet.

I checked to see if the compressor was engaging at all and it wasn't. I noticed that a bypass wire I installed about two years ago came loose as soon as it was touched, so I reconnected that and tested again. Still nothing. I checked the wire and it was getting current. I even bypassed that by hooking the compressor straight to the battery and it *worked, but it wasn't really blowing any cold air. I'm thinking that a relay went bad somewhere, but I can't find the darn thing. I looked in and around both the fuse boxes and I can't see anything that looks like a relay. Does anyone have a picture or can describe where this would be, or is it something different? Maybe the guys at the shop screwed something up with the refrigerant for all I know. Thanks in advance.

Edit: changed wording at asterisk because I was very vague before.

Another edit: It turns out the gaskets that were changed were put on loosely so all the coolant blew out almost right away, which prevented the compressor from spinning. I had them changed again, but it seems that the coolant blew out AGAIN. I'm wondering if the leak is bigger than I originally thought.
 

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well when your talking about the AC system the term is FREON... not coolant. just an fyi there...

and if the leak is larger than you thought... and if you say it blew out immediatly... then yes its much larger than you thought.

i would start where the freon leaked out at....there are supposed to be O rings on every connection point unless its a welded or crimped connection. if an o ring is missing... then thats the problem.
 


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well when your talking about the AC system the term is FREON... not coolant. just an fyi there...
Actually the term is refrigerant for R134A, FREON is referred to as R12.

...just an FYI there.

Another edit: It turns out the gaskets that were changed were put on loosely so all the coolant blew out almost right away, which prevented the compressor from spinning. I had them changed again, but it seems that the coolant blew out AGAIN. I'm wondering if the leak is bigger than I originally thought.
They did the low cost conversion for you and then charged you out the ass. Those seals are cheap. By just replacing the seals which is very important however. R1 is actually much, much better than R134A. It has and always will produce a colder blowing AC. However R12 is worse for the environment. Not to say R134A is safe, because it isn't. its just not as virulent.

A true conversion consists of replacing all the components to R134A compliant components. Compressor, seals, hoses, etc. Damn near a complete conversion to a 1996+ A/C installation. It can be very expensive. This is because R12 and R124A are both become very corrosive/acidic when mixed with water. The hoses in both systems are different as well as the type of rubber has different substances in their structure to withstand the acidity of the refrigerant. Thing is, is that when you put R124A in a R12 system it will eventually eat out the inside of the R12 hoses creating a sludge in the system that will eventually clog up the condenser, TXV, accumulator, evaporator, etc, etc.

It is quite possible that the tech did not perform the job precisely and that's why your system is still faulty. If you really want to get them to fix it for free. You can investigate whether the technician who serviced your vehicle is actually ASE certified/licensed to work on AC systems. If he is not he is in direct violation of EPA regulations. The technician and shop can both be fined individually in excess of $10,000 easily.

He will have a license on him and a certificate that looks like this: This is my license and certificate, its expired now. No need in getting a new one because I dont work in a shop anymore. not to mention my daughter spilled kool-aid on it years ago LOL.
 


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