attention! anyone that appreciates a nice civic, I would value ur input

ron burgundy

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What would you pay(honestly, realistically)
For this civic http://www.bbsrszone.com/red-ek-honda-civic-si-coupe-16-silver-bbs-rs/

Assuming(hypotheticall)

It is a 2000 civic EX
.mods.
.slammed on some premium $750 fully adjustable, dampable coilovers
.bbs rs 16x8 replicas
.Front and rear type r lips
.full after market exhaust, vtec header no cat, no res. 2.5 inch piping all the way to muffler
.short ram intake.
And some red type r racing seats(pair)
Aftermarket deep dish steering wheel,
And besides that mostly stoke engine,
And some other little touches such as shifter knobs, sound dett,
So re upholstery, ect..
Odometer has 160 but has a rebuild with paper work 10k on new rebuild,

Sooo what would u guys LIKE to pay and what would u acsually be willing to fork over??????

And another answer for this same hypothetical car with no rebuild???.??
 
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What would you pay(honestly, realistically)
For this civic http://www.bbsrszone.com/red-ek-honda-civic-si-coupe-16-silver-bbs-rs/

Assuming(hypotheticall)

It is a 2000 civic EX
.mods.
.slammed on some premium $750 fully adjustable, dampable coilovers
.bbs rs 16x8 replicas
.Front and rear type r lips
.full after market exhaust, vtec header no cat, no res. 2.5 inch piping all the way to muffler
.short ram intake.
And some red type r racing seats(pair)
Aftermarket deep dish steering wheel,
And besides that mostly stoke engine,
And some other little touches such as shifter knobs, sound dett,
So re upholstery, ect..
Odometer has 160 but has a rebuild with paper work 10k on new rebuild,

Sooo what would u guys LIKE to pay and what would u acsually be willing to fork over??????
if it looked like the car in the picture, 2500-3000 grand max due to a clean body. To me, those mods listed are crap.
 


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It's a matter of how much someone is willing to pay for someone else's modified car.. A stock car in excellent condition with 10k miles is KBB at around $7,500. But, this car is very modified and for anyone with a brain, mods DEVALUE a car. So in all honesty I wouldn't bother paying more than $6k for it. I might only offer that much if the car is mechanically running like brand new, everything must work properly(a/c, heat, cruise control, etc..) and only because the body/paint looks great. I don't see any value in those wheels, likely in the suspension or most of the interior either so I'd just end up selling that crap anyways and get like $1k back bring in the total purchase down to like $5k. But that's just me..

If by rebuild you mean the motor rebuild, at 160k miles the same car in excellent condition is KBB value around $3,500.
 

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.slammed on some premium $750 fully adjustable, dampable coilovers
Truly "Premium" coilovers cost far more than $750. So I'd be inclined to believe the ride probably isnt that great. Poor rear camber doesnt help the cause either. Red flag #1

.bbs rs 16x8 replicas
Replica rims wont add to anyones value unless the buyer doesnt know any better.

And besides that mostly stoke engine,
I assume this meant "stock" engine.

.full after market exhaust
If it was a notable brand, why not state it? Another red flag.

vtec header
What exactly is a "vtec" header? Perhaps another generic eBay mod? Red flag #3!

no cat, no res. 2.5 inch piping
A loud, obnoxious exhaust on a relatively stock engine with uselessly larger piping that actually reduces power? Big Red Flag #4!

.short ram intake.
Useless on a relatively stock engine.

Odometer has 160 but has a rebuild with paper work 10k on new rebuild
If a Honda engine required a rebuild after just 160,000 miles, then that car was likely heavily ragged on. Thus, any number of other components could be on the verge of break-down. Big potential red flag #5.

IF the car was mechanically AND cosmetically excellent, I doubt I would offer more than $3500 in large part because I would end up replacing absolutely every add-on & mod you have listed. Therefore, its as good to me as a bone stock Civic.
 


ron burgundy

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CHILD, ur a d**k man,
I understand those mods are crap, its a strat up all show no go car,
... grr.. that was sort of insulting but I understand where ur coming from and I entierly DO NOT agree, ill leave it at that I guess I did ask,

Civexspeedy thats an excellent comment, well put,

In my opinion, I suppose I would put out 5,500
Or so, I know the mods are crap but, it is a clean f**kin looking mobile.. I mean I would value the suspension and wheels(suspension more than wheels forsure) but hypotheticaly ofcourse it is a clean ass smoth running almost flawless vehical)
Truthfully I think I could get 5500 pretty easy maybe 6,
With rebuilt motor,.. idk a solid 5500.


I ask this question because I am thinking of sort of jocking this guys civic theme with the clean milano red si look tuned not riced, and those rs wheels.

But im trying to decide if its worth putting all that money into it...

In about 2 years or so I plan to buy a G35 coupe manual (awsome vehicle, I really want one) and to make my car the hypothetical described car, it would cost... aboutt....
Alittle over 2200, ontop of what I payed for the car awhile ago 4500,
Bone stock perfect condition,
Now in trying to way what I payed for it what I can fet for it now,
And what I can get for it if I tune it up and what I would have to pay to get it there,
 

ron burgundy

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I like ur post Hex even if it is alittle insulting lol

Keep in mind im a ""punk teenager haha
I love the obnoxiously loud stock engine and the cheap as generic ebay parts haha.., I know its lame buying cheap, but im broke niggah honestly, untill I get some real income thats how its gunna be im sure alot of people can relate, but that is respectable post u so gratefuly Smashed together, I do appreciate the quick replies
 

ron burgundy

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Opps I forgot what the post was about with that last reply to hex lol,

That is a nice observation hex, very nice ur absolutely right a Rebuilt engine at 160, I was just thinking a new engine may add to the value for some, its all 100% hypothetical and just for fun
 

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I like ur post Hex even if it is alittle insulting lol Keep in mind im a ""punk teenager haha. I love the obnoxiously loud stock engine and the cheap as generic ebay parts haha.., I know its lame buying cheap, but im broke niggah honestly, untill I get some real income thats how its gunna be im sure alot of people can relate, but that is respectable post u so gratefuly Smashed together, I do appreciate the quick replies
Opps I forgot what the post was about with that last reply to hex lol, That is a nice observation hex, very nice ur absolutely right a Rebuilt engine at 160, I was just thinking a new engine may add to the value for some, its all 100% hypothetical and just for fun
if it looked like the car in the picture, 2500-3000 grand max due to a clean body. To me, those mods listed are crap.
Understand Child is a knowledgeable vet on this forum. Im sure his comment is meant to be helpfully honest just as mine. Sugar coating wont help you get a good idea of potential value. You also will experience the knowledgeable potential buyer who may express my same observations. You may be a teenager, but learn from the experienced. A leniency towards cheap parts indicates a likelihood to not take proper care of your vehicle. Furthermore, if you cant buy quality then dont waste your money on crap.

For the record, all those listed mods have devalued your car more than if it had been left stock. You've now limited your target consumers to the teenaged automotively ignorant who likely wont have youre desired $5000+. You'd be better off parts hunting in junkyards & on the internet. You'd be surprised on the deals available out there when you search hard enough. Here's some math to consider in future endeavors...

$50 (ebay intake) + $50 (eBay header) + $150 (eBay Catback exhaust) + $750 (mediocre coilovers) = $1000
End Result: a uselessly loud, modest riding, "look at me please!" Civic that makes more people laugh at you than respect you. (Anyone who knows even a little about cars laughs at Ricer sound)

$45 (K&N drop-in filter online) + $30 (junkyard OEM header if needed) + $100 (used sportier Honda muffler from junkyard) + $250 (new KYB shocks online) + $150 (new Tein Springs online) = $575
End Result: a better performing, comfortable, nice profiled Civic with $425 extra in your pocket to use on better useful parts and on dates with the girls you dont scare off with that Ricer Civic.
 

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Best post ever ^^

/thread.
 

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Dont take my OPINION to the butthole, but I was giving my honest opinion. My opinion and civexspeed's for example, are true to life variances in value from one person to the next. What may be gold to one person, may be garbage to another. Dealing with civics, that should be pretty clear especially with a large percentage of people who only see an economical value in a Honda period.

... hurt my feelings calling me a d**k :( ......:P
 

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Best post ever ^^ /thread.
Thank you, sir!

Dont take my OPINION to the butthole, but I was giving my honest opinion. My opinion and civexspeed's for example, are true to life variances in value from one person to the next. What may be gold to one person, may be garbage to another. Dealing with civics, that should be pretty clear especially with a large percentage of people who only see an economical value in a Honda period.

... hurt my feelings calling me a d**k :( ......:P
I think you'll survive, Child ;-)

Burgundy, you asked for opinions and you're getting several useful ones. You should use them to your advantage since you did ask for them.
 

ron burgundy

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Sorry childallafter posting that I thought about it an ur opinon is true to
Alot of people, only from a pink teenage perspective are those mods worth anything, cheap Parts and all that air flow on a stock d16 dont do anything really, I was jusy offended to(hypothetically) put all that money into it, and recieve that number, but u are correct those mods dont really add any real value to the car for most people,
Im going astray with those post im pretty out of it but I did want to reply to you guys before to long,
I take it back child and to you hex, u were the most helpful and informative on this post thank you very much,

I have considered it all, and I no those mods really wont add value when going to sell and that exhaust is probably alittle to loud for the car so I will refine my build ideas, but im not going to worry about resell value, I believe its just going to be too low in another couple years when I actually want to sell it, so im just going to put on whatever mods please me and help me enjoy the car,
Im plotting to make a post on my car project pretty soon so u all can see and help and what not,

If u get a chance Hex, and whoever else could u post up a link to a civic on my year 2000 ex coupe,(if possible or another year whatever)
That you would find respectable, or just type up a fantasy civic,
I would love to see what u guys like,( probably sleepers im assuming???) But if u get a chance id like to check it out,

Thanks
 

ron burgundy

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Sorry it took so long to reply I hopr u guys haven't moved on ill always reply to a post untill it is concluded, I wont leave u guys metaphorically hangin haha
 

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Sorry childallafter posting that I thought about it an ur opinon is true to Alot of people, only from a pink teenage perspective are those mods worth anything, cheap Parts and all that air flow on a stock d16 dont do anything really, I was jusy offended to(hypothetically) put all that money into it, and recieve that number, but u are correct those mods dont really add any real value to the car for most people, Im going astray with those post im pretty out of it but I did want to reply to you guys before to long, I take it back child and to you hex, u were the most helpful and informative on this post thank you very much,

I have considered it all, and I no those mods really wont add value when going to sell and that exhaust is probably alittle to loud for the car so I will refine my build ideas, but im not going to worry about resell value, I believe its just going to be too low in another couple years when I actually want to sell it, so im just going to put on whatever mods please me and help me enjoy the car, Im plotting to make a post on my car project pretty soon so u all can see and help and what not,
Im glad to read that a teenager got the point! One less ricer Civic on the road is always a good thing.

If u get a chance Hex, and whoever else could u post up a link to a civic on my year 2000 ex coupe,(if possible or another year whatever) That you would find respectable, or just type up a fantasy civic, I would love to see what u guys like,( probably sleepers im assuming???) But if u get a chance id like to check it out,
Thanks
The specific year of Civic within '96-'00 doesnt really matter until you begin to consider engines mods or AC changes. I suggest you check out Child's build as well as mine if you really want an idea of what we prefer and what are our goals. We have hyperlinks to our builds on our signatures. You'll see I take the simple approach while Child has gone all out in detail on his build. I wont provide any further suggestions other than to research heavily on all '96-'00 coupes. Perhaps you may pick one subject & research it until you've made a choice on options. When in doubt, use the search functionand if that doesnt help then create a new thread or ask on your own build thread. Virtually every topic has been covered in one respect or another. Just keep in mind that generic brand mods are almost always a bad idea.
 

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id give you like 1500 bucks, just a bunch of ebay s**t, and car with broke ass looking camber. it has a motor swap, but woopie do. personally i dont buy cars that some f**k face kid has owned anyways. just saying.
 

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I guess I look at modifying cars differently... I wouldn't buy a used car that had been modified. I'd rather buy one from an old lady so that I could do my own mods to the car. Plus, buying a modified car throws a red flag as to how hard has this guy pushed this car. That's my own opinion. Plus, stock just means you can add your own mods and not have someone else's idea of a car.
 

ron burgundy

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Thaanks again hex ill cheak ur builds out as soon as im done with this post, id say this thread is almost complete, just one more thing

Would u recommend any suspension in the $750 range?
Less if possible??
Im getting ready to buy some new coilovers but I dont wanna spend 800 and just have someone steal my car lol,
And im really looking to take it reasonably low, that eould be my goal for suspension, but not be too bouncy I really just need something thats not totall s**t will make my car low and not f**k it up for a resonable price, thanks
 

ron burgundy

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Hex thats a great build nd all I like that its not half assed and magnaflow exhaust bits, and what not but its not for me if u can understand its good for what it is and im sure ur still doing things to it and I bet its in top nick, but for me id just have to change it up,
The main things I look for in the looks of a car would be the altitude and the wheels say the most to me, I truly believe u can slam any car and throw some kick ass wheels on it and itll look great lol,
But bravo to tge build hex,
And too child thats f**k crazy I cant believe u put all that in to ur car and had it stolen, .. .. wtff. Thats terrible, that was a great f**kin civic tho but again as far as looks I wasnt feelin it to much but bravo again to that first build child if u read this please let me know if u had any anti theft on there and how it got stolen?
Thats the main thing I worry about owning a civic..
Thsts A big reason why I wanna give up the civics and go to a g35 in a couple years

And how did u gett The leds in ur cluster?
Id like to make my red or blue if its not to much if a hassle, please explain??
I think thats awsome ive been thinking about that for awhile
 

ron burgundy

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To simplify, both hex and child those are some great projects truly its not some half ass mexiebay project,
But both of those cars wouldnt be for me,

What di u guys think about my opinion of the stance and wheels,
Is that not appealing to you guys?? Is it tacky or somthing?
 

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no more than 3000

but for uner 3000 you can find a un-modified Civic. :thumbup:
 


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