Hi everyone, I need everyones expertise on this one so that I can reach my goal, I will like to build my hatchback for street but with the "COJONES" to go to the track and run 12's. I will like to know what combination is need it from the turbo, Injectors (confuse on the injectors as well with the hi and low),throttle body,fuel pump (walbro 255, is what everyone is telling me, but now I got confuse, walbro 255 hi or low? and can my stock computer control everthing to my goal of 12's ET. this will be done on a stock sleeve engine but with good piston and rods and a mild prepare cylinder head with a good turbo camshaft to help me with my set up. PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME OUT, SO THAT I CAN START MY SHOPPING!!
Best combination set up for my goal?
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haha yes....ur engine setup is going have to be changed completely if u want to run 12's.....even if u plan to boost at all u have to change ur engine managment.....what ecu do you have right now?
92-00 Civic/Integra vehicles require Saturated HIGH RESISTANCE injectors (11-14 ohm)
LOW RESISTANCE injectors maybe used in 92-00 Civic/Integras using a resistor box.
240cc = 180-190whp 310cc = 200-220whp 370cc = 220-280whp
440cc = 280-330whp 550cc = 330whp-380whp 660cc = 380whp-425whp
720cc = 425whp-475whp 880cc = 475whp-525whp 1000cc = 525whp-600whp
NGK BKR7E-N-11 for most applications under 400 whp
Go with the high flow fuel pump
Your stock computer will not be able to controll it. You will need to either get a chipped ecu or something better.
as far as turbo that is unknown becuase every turbo is different.
LOW RESISTANCE injectors maybe used in 92-00 Civic/Integras using a resistor box.
240cc = 180-190whp 310cc = 200-220whp 370cc = 220-280whp
440cc = 280-330whp 550cc = 330whp-380whp 660cc = 380whp-425whp
720cc = 425whp-475whp 880cc = 475whp-525whp 1000cc = 525whp-600whp
NGK BKR7E-N-11 for most applications under 400 whp
Go with the high flow fuel pump
Your stock computer will not be able to controll it. You will need to either get a chipped ecu or something better.
as far as turbo that is unknown becuase every turbo is different.
thanks for you reply,
Ok it will be a street civic I will like to keep my AC and PS but if that is not possible I'll be willing to let go.
Is my goal a fantasy, Im sure there are street civic running 12's, I have seen a few my self.
I just want to buy the right stuff now, I don't want to buy something now and then upgrade. I already have a manifold. Piston and rods, arp head studs,fuel pump (just need to know whether is Hi or Low on the walbro 255) The cylinder head will be work on as well so pretty much engine wise will be taking care off, My question goes more towards what turbo size should I buy, then the injectors, I want them to fit my original harness so pretty much I need (size) and what throttle body if I have to, I will like to get one that matches my intake manifold and also any sensor that came with my original harness. also if my original P28 with a chip or somethng like that will be enouth to control my engine with the turbo set up or do I need some type of managment system to control it.
Ok it will be a street civic I will like to keep my AC and PS but if that is not possible I'll be willing to let go.
Is my goal a fantasy, Im sure there are street civic running 12's, I have seen a few my self.
I just want to buy the right stuff now, I don't want to buy something now and then upgrade. I already have a manifold. Piston and rods, arp head studs,fuel pump (just need to know whether is Hi or Low on the walbro 255) The cylinder head will be work on as well so pretty much engine wise will be taking care off, My question goes more towards what turbo size should I buy, then the injectors, I want them to fit my original harness so pretty much I need (size) and what throttle body if I have to, I will like to get one that matches my intake manifold and also any sensor that came with my original harness. also if my original P28 with a chip or somethng like that will be enouth to control my engine with the turbo set up or do I need some type of managment system to control it.
12's aren't unattainable, but when you say rod and stuff did you also change out to better main & rod bearings too??? if so then you do have your bottom end built (well pending what ya did) you can hit 12's in the t3/t4 range w/ a good tune and driving 
look into a T3/T4 turbo on ebay.....garrett and turbonetics r good brands....do not get s**t that says "HKS STYLE"
the main thing ur going to have to worry about is tuning.....do you live in a big city? is there a dyno around your area? can you get to one?
the main thing ur going to have to worry about is tuning.....do you live in a big city? is there a dyno around your area? can you get to one?
like i said though PM im looking for my project a T3/T04E, w/ that turbo you will can to get those 12 secs (ive seen EG hatchback about doing the 11 secs with that turbo )..
complete ur stuff and with a good ecu tuned runing with a lil high boost you will can to get those 12 sec..
)..complete ur stuff and with a good ecu tuned runing with a lil high boost you will can to get those 12 sec..
as long as u rebuilt ur motor.....get a good tune.....run about 15-20 psi......u'll get 12's lol
well.. i dunno if he can to do about 12 sec with d series stock turbo but yes with for example B16 stock with T3t04e 
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/b16/6/41c7844e-94c7-4d07-86d1-b6f448ca65d6.htm
besides, go to Evans tuning and you will see one B16 hatchback making 345+ WHP..
besides, go to Evans tuning and you will see one B16 hatchback making 345+ WHP..
What types of bearing are good, I'm gonna be honest I thought that new bearings like from advance auto will do it. I was planning on sending the crank to get regrind, don't you get new sets of main and rod bearings with that? or should I get factory hondas,? Is just everytime you go to the dealer I feel like I'm being rape by a 7 feet black man, while bending over to pick a bar of soap.... you get my point! So if there is a more affordable way that does the same work I go for it.j_fukin_t said:12's aren't unattainable, but when you say rod and stuff did you also change out to better main & rod bearings too??? if so then you do have your bottom end built (well pending what ya did) you can hit 12's in the t3/t4 range w/ a good tune and driving
Thats what Im talking about!!1999CivicEX said:
will the high resistance injectors fit my original plug harness?
Ok lets say that I get high resistance injectors, this means that I have to get the walbro 255(high version)
will my original P28 be able to control bigger injectors.
when you said that my stock eco wont be able to control it, you mean the fuel pump (walbro 255) or the entire turbo set up?
thanks a lot guys, keep it comming!!
about the turbo, everyone keeps saying a t3/t4 but what numbers/combination? they have so many I wanna be able to run good numbers at the track with the right tunning but also be able to drive in the street also with the right tunning as well. hopefully this can be acomplish using the same turbo if by any chance the set up is to radical keep I'll be happy driving it around on weekends to the shopping mall parking lot (lots of cars, wrx,evoluton, gti, and some V8's)
theres a place here but they deal more with VW's. I can check to see if they have a dyno. but I rather go to a place that deal with honda I guess. I'm sure that I somebody already have my same set up or something similar to what I'm gonna build, It will be possible to get that same program and use it on my set up just to get things going without the need of going to the dyno, of course after making sure that everything is 100% ok. I know that going to the dyno is the best choice, but if I happend to have the same modification, engine wises and turbo combination it should be the same, right? anyone , anyone?Chaos said:
I see some good turbos on ebay, but I have to be 1000% sure of what I'm getting, this is one thing that I don't want to "uck up, my turbo and like I mention before I have to know which one to get. about brands, it is really necesary? Is there a place that sell good turbos, maybe using good parts(ball bearings, ect) from the companies mention above, that don't carry the price tag of the so call main brands? And size, everyone keeps saying T3/T4 but which one, also some brands have diffrent name for the same sizes of turbos, it gets stupid confusing. I already got my turbo manifold that I alredy got complaints for getting the one that I got but I think I did good, its super solid, and it fits perfect, and I love the Wastegate location, right in the middle.Chaos said:
keep it coming guys good info. I apreciate.
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Damm , no wonder know one has reply, sorry for all those quote guys didn't know it came up like that. I was trying to reply to every message by it self and ended up with that never ending Novel. but if you can take a minute of your time, and go over the message before this one and help me out please I will apreciate big time.
Thanks!! And once again sorry for the mess.
Thanks!! And once again sorry for the mess.