block guard problems

[krazykoncept]

I'm building a D16Z6 engine and bought a block guard for it. It's from KMS Engineering it seems to big. It says D16 ZC on it. The block guard doesn't even like lock in so you can pound iy in. Anyone had this problem? You don't have to cut the block right? Any help will be greatful or any block guard suggestions. Building a turbo motor.

 

[Handlebars]

dont use it. blockguards are the stupidest product ever invented.

 

[loccusst]

I have never heard of anyone having a problem with the blockgaurds not fitting. I don't think they are stupid though. Just my opinion.

 

[J32a2OwnsU]

dont use it. blockguards are the stupidest product ever invented.

Would you care to elaborate on why you feel they are stupid....thx.

 

[krazykoncept]

So why are they stupid. What else can you use to help support the cylinders for a turbo motor.

 

[J32a2OwnsU]

So why are they stupid. What else can you use to help support the cylinders for a turbo motor.

I dont know too much I only know about sleeving a motor....And Im not quite sure what that entails, so im not going to describe it any further. I know thats what most people do though when they turbo.

 

[Handlebars]

because a block guard goes on the top of the cylinders, over the combustion chamber, where the coolant is most needed. it blocks the coolant and causes hot spots on the cylinder walls. this causes warping and detonation. to anyone who knows motors, they know sleeves fail in the center when the rod is at the greatest angle to the sleeve and putting the most side load on it, not at the top at the combustion chamber. if you want to properly support the cylidner walls, get the block sleeved. otherwise, dotn bother, leave it stock. i wont even mention the horrible idea of just punding the block guard in, which will almost guarantee that you will warp the sleeves and you'll sieze the motor. the only correct way to install a block guard is to tear the motor down to the bare block, press in the block guard, weld it in, and then have the cylinders overbored to be brought back into perfect round. as you can probably tell, thats about as much in cost of parts and labor as it is to just have the block sleeved, which is aboslutely superior.

 

[evan2]

^^ true any real racer will never use a block gurad, worst cheap insureance ever.....

 

[lanojp1]

^^ true any real racer will never use a block gurad, worst cheap insureance ever.....

my thoughts exactly...if you cared THAT much about ur motor, you would have it sleeved...besides, you can get quoted from BIG NAME companies now to get sleeved for about 1000 bucks installed...

 

[Handlebars]

my thoughts exactly...if you cared THAT much about ur motor, you would have it sleeved...besides, you can get quoted from BIG NAME companies now to get sleeved for about 1000 bucks installed...

actually golden eagle and a few others go for 700-800

 

[HiGH_CiTY]

because a block guard goes on the top of the cylinders, over the combustion chamber, where the coolant is most needed. it blocks the coolant and causes hot spots on the cylinder walls. this causes warping and detonation. to anyone who knows motors, they know sleeves fail in the center when the rod is at the greatest angle to the sleeve and putting the most side load on it, not at the top at the combustion chamber. if you want to properly support the cylidner walls, get the block sleeved. otherwise, dotn bother, leave it stock. i wont even mention the horrible idea of just punding the block guard in, which will almost guarantee that you will warp the sleeves and you'll sieze the motor. the only correct way to install a block guard is to tear the motor down to the bare block, press in the block guard, weld it in, and then have the cylinders overbored to be brought back into perfect round. as you can probably tell, thats about as much in cost of parts and labor as it is to just have the block sleeved, which is aboslutely superior.

 

[Ravage70]

if u really want to support ur sleeves for cheap u can post them

 

[io_303]

here is some info and a howto on posting

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/block_posting/index.html

 

[Ravage70]

i love that site btw

 

[io_303]

so do i, I throw it out all the time. that and www.turbod16.com

 

[Ravage70]

so u may very well be the reason for all the noobs on the site

-Can u guys help me make my turbo kit?
-Search b***h!

 

[io_303]

so u may very well be the reason for all the noobs on the site

-Can u guys help me make my turbo kit?
-Search b***h!

Sorry, I just find it to be a goor resource, I dont even post there, I just lurk

 

[Civicdreams]

lurking is good...........lol......just sleeve it man I was gonna go block gaurd all the way but its just not worth it if your gonna try and push 12 to 14 pounds out of a built D16z6......It may cost some dollas but whatever man dont you wanna have your car runnin all next summer........SLEEVE THAT s**t and BOOST IT UP

 

[Govacho]

dont use it. blockguards are the stupidest product ever invented.

100% with ya on that one bro. Sleeves and you'll never go wrong..

Darton $700. to 900.

LA Sleeves $ 700. to 800.

Well worht is in the long run.