General tuning question

[LikWidChz]

the question is sort of a general question about tuning.

Turbo or NA it dosent matter.

Can you advance timing untill you get knock and then back it off a bit this is pre 2000 rpm to get more umph on the bottom end?

I have never used hondata only dsmlink software for my buddys car, I know this question applys to any car youc an tune though so I thought i would toss out that question.

 

[93turbo16]

Usually the answer to that question is yes, but how are you monitoring knock? Part throttle knock can be a pain to monitor without a knock sensor.

 

[eg8b18]

I thought all hondas come with knock sensor. how do u monitor knock?

 

[Shiznit]

nope all b-series and only some d-series come with knock sensors.

 

[Szady]

nope all b-series and only some d-series come with knock sensors.

What D motors come with it?

 

[xxsenceo89x]

What D motors come with it?

the ones with vtak

 

[Steven.]

nope all b-series and only some d-series come with knock sensors.

not all Bs do.

 

[Shiznit]

not all Bs do.

which b didnt? my guess is the ls

 

[xxsenceo89x]

isnt it no vtak=no knock sensor

 

[Steven.]

one of the B20s didnt, i dont think my 94 LS motor has one either.
and the 90-93 LS i belive dosent either

 

[93turbo16]

The LS motors don't have a knock sensor. And only OBD2 and up d16y8s have a knock sensor I believe for the D-series. But either way, they are useless. A good way to monitor knock is with a set of det cans.

 

[Shiznit]

what are det cans??

 

[Steven.]

detonation can.
http://www.d-series.org/forums//showthread.php?t=66791

 

[Shiznit]

so you have to wear headphones in order to hear it? its only good for tuning then.

 

[93turbo16]

so you have to wear headphones in order to hear it? its only good for tuning then.

Yep, you would. Another way would be a knock light or J&S safeguard. Which can monitor knock.