I am planning to buy a greddy turbo kit and greddy i/c 24 for 99 si. I do not want to tune the turbo or anything after it is installed. I have three q's. My question is, 1. Is the greddy "blue box" that came with the kit reliable for a daily driver. 2. How do you prevent detonation? 3. Is the greddy turbo kit for 99 si w/ greddy i/c 24 street legal?
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1. the blue box is reliable as long as you remain at stock boost levels. if you up the boost, prepare to explode.
2. there are many ways to prevent detonation... the most common is to retard your timing.... this will cost you a little power, but will save the motor. if you remain at the greddy kit's stock settings you don't have to worry about this unless the weather gets over 100 degrees.
3. only the basic kit is carb exempt. if you add an intercooler or a bov then the setup is no longer street legal.....
the blue box is a generic tuning map for the si.......... your car, with that setup, will run okay but will not be as fast as it could be. getting a turbo kit tuned is always a smart idea. in fact, not getting a turbo kit tuned is a terribly dumb idea.
2. there are many ways to prevent detonation... the most common is to retard your timing.... this will cost you a little power, but will save the motor. if you remain at the greddy kit's stock settings you don't have to worry about this unless the weather gets over 100 degrees.
3. only the basic kit is carb exempt. if you add an intercooler or a bov then the setup is no longer street legal.....
the blue box is a generic tuning map for the si.......... your car, with that setup, will run okay but will not be as fast as it could be. getting a turbo kit tuned is always a smart idea. in fact, not getting a turbo kit tuned is a terribly dumb idea.
WHATS THIS??
3. only the basic kit is carb exempt. if you add an intercooler or a bov then the setup is no longer street legal.....
its not illegal to have a bov and intercooler? every car tubo from the dealer has an intercooler and bov
check this you put a pump and missing link or check valves, kick back the timing plug off the stock regulator, get a set of NGK cold plugs that car will never see a hot cylinder fire. and buy the way the GReddy kit is junk
I have a buddie with an SI and he runns 15psi fully built bottom end e-manage and E01 and its isnt that fast my car is faster when we both run 6 psi
you got tubo ?'s IM me ivtecdaily
3. only the basic kit is carb exempt. if you add an intercooler or a bov then the setup is no longer street legal.....
its not illegal to have a bov and intercooler? every car tubo from the dealer has an intercooler and bov
check this you put a pump and missing link or check valves, kick back the timing plug off the stock regulator, get a set of NGK cold plugs that car will never see a hot cylinder fire. and buy the way the GReddy kit is junk
I have a buddie with an SI and he runns 15psi fully built bottom end e-manage and E01 and its isnt that fast my car is faster when we both run 6 psi
you got tubo ?'s IM me ivtecdaily
umm hey spool, all turbo cars dont come with intercoolers or a bov. the celica all trac turbo didnt have a bov...alot of cars didnt. what i think 4R is saying is that when you add a intercooler and bov, for some reason, the kit wont pass. ALL intercoolers are different, they arent the same. do some reading.
blue box sucks, vafc hack is better, just like ^^^^^^ said. dont get a greddy turbo kit, make your own. you will spend les money, make more power, and learn alot.
blue box sucks, vafc hack is better, just like ^^^^^^ said. dont get a greddy turbo kit, make your own. you will spend les money, make more power, and learn alot.
do some reading are you kidding? whats the purpose of an intercooler! alls it does is bring the charge temp down dramaticly. air just passes through it doesnt have anything to do with emissions, and if you had celica to AZ your gonna be puttin on an intercooler on or your gonna replace the engine soon
but whatever you think man, i just wondnt have you work on my car!
but whatever you think man, i just wondnt have you work on my car!
not all intercoolers are designed the same, not all intercoolers perform as good as others. you should know this if you think you are so smart. for instance, a starion fmic flows like balls....while a probe ic flows alot better. because they have a different design!!!! i didnt say that i belive it has anything to do with emissions...just that for some reason it may not pass.
so again, do some reading on intercoolers and the different types of intercoolers. you will learn that some flow better than others.
so again, do some reading on intercoolers and the different types of intercoolers. you will learn that some flow better than others.
What the f**k does flowing have to do with anything its all the same air when it gets to the throttle body, and no s**t there not all designed the same but it has nothing to do with any type of emissions bud! so i think you should know your s**t before you make yourself look dumb!
Wow, Sean. That was a really nice an intelligent way to show that guy was wrong. Good show!
Sean is right, the IC and BOV just havent done all the legal red tape that the regular kit has. I think the regular kit, properly tuned, runs fine at purchased lvls. It always cheaper to build your own kit, but what youre supposed to be paying for is the reliablity and testing right? Make sure you read alot of stuff about the Greddy turbo kit before you buy it, and make the distinction btw those who have kept it "stock" and those that up the boost.
My opinion, for a buy-and-bolt situation a charger like vortec's is better.
I have a Greddy turbo kit for my '00 Si. And love it as well. If ya have any questions about it, I'll be on AIM later on tonight after the Miami Hurricane game. Message me if ya got anymore questions that the others didn't answer for ya. I didn't bother to read all the posts but can tell you this, with an HKS bov and a type 24 i/c, which is what I run, it is street legal. I have the CARB OE# on the inside of the hood just incase.
TurboCane
are you retarded? having an intercooler with a good flow is better overall. you can push more air faster and more effeciently which will equal more power and faster spool. you just said that intercoolers all do the same thing, yes they do, but some do it better. i never said it has anything to do with emissions. when did i say "intercoolers and bovs = shitty emissions"? thats what i thought..... im not the one looking dumb.
spoolup doesnt know how california and carb work. for a product to become carb certified (and legal to use in cali) the company needs to prove to carb in a number of very long and very expensive tests that its product has zero effect on emissions. if you change the product in the slightest, they need to retest from the start. so greddy would have to redo the kit with each different combination of accessories to get it all certified, and thats just unreasonable for a company to do that. so only the basic kit is certified.
A lot of times, it's not the affect of emissions that causes you to fail the sniffer. Well, in Cali, we have this "extra" test tossed in by "the guys" to make it that much harder for you to pass the emmisions...and also to generate revenue for your uncle sam. It's called the "visual inspection" and dat's the reason why so many of your precious jdm motors aren't gonna get a legal "motor change" certificate. Be rest assured that if the guys tending the smog station is a real a**hole, he'll fail you for having that shiny intake under the hood, affecting emissions or not. What the hell do they have business with what we put in our cars? The only thing they should be concered about is whether the car passes or fail. Unfortunately, it's not! So the next time you have to kiss that red sticker on your rear window, be sure to thank the idiot who spit that test out of his arse to screw us. *Cali only! Some states may differ.
Now, about the intercooler and BOV, those probably won't affect emissions (on a MAP car), but you're still gonna hate that visual inspection test.
Now, about the intercooler and BOV, those probably won't affect emissions (on a MAP car), but you're still gonna hate that visual inspection test.
3. only the basic kit is carb exempt. if you add an intercooler or a bov then the setup is no longer street legal.....
this is what you said, now if im right being street legal is having your car pass emissions, and know s**t flow has alot to do with performance but lets get back on track either will not make you fail emissions, im not sure how they test up there but even here when they take the visual the only words are damn! you do all this? how much?....... and on and on, I run my civic on the dyno and it has no prob with emissions and everything possible is done to it. I just proved my point Az dont care what you do to your car your just living in the wrong state Sean,
I pooped on your mom and she ate it!
this is what you said, now if im right being street legal is having your car pass emissions, and know s**t flow has alot to do with performance but lets get back on track either will not make you fail emissions, im not sure how they test up there but even here when they take the visual the only words are damn! you do all this? how much?....... and on and on, I run my civic on the dyno and it has no prob with emissions and everything possible is done to it. I just proved my point Az dont care what you do to your car your just living in the wrong state Sean,
I pooped on your mom and she ate it!
dyno has nothing to do with emissions!! its a hp and tq meter!!!
she did?? cool. i live in vt, they do give a f**k but not too bad. im not lving in the wrong state, not at all. im not saying that vt wont allow it. im just saying that some states like CA wont. it could very well pass emissions with the ic and/or bov. its just that they havent tested it, so there is no carb number for it. thats all im saying. im not saying that it wont pass, never said that. but one thing i want you to admit to is that you are wrong thinking about how ic's all work well.....obviously different designs and endtanks will affect the flow therefore affecting hp and psi.
she did?? cool. i live in vt, they do give a f**k but not too bad. im not lving in the wrong state, not at all. im not saying that vt wont allow it. im just saying that some states like CA wont. it could very well pass emissions with the ic and/or bov. its just that they havent tested it, so there is no carb number for it. thats all im saying. im not saying that it wont pass, never said that. but one thing i want you to admit to is that you are wrong thinking about how ic's all work well.....obviously different designs and endtanks will affect the flow therefore affecting hp and psi.