Help Car Died, Fuel Pump?

[mikefxu]

(UPDATE!)Help Car Died, Fuel Pump?

Help Car Died, Fuel Pump?
alright my car died today on the way to work its a 96 CX hatch completely stock. it just died i tried turning it over but it would not start, seems like no fuel. ok when i turn the key i hear fuel pump come on then i hear click under dash and fuel pump turns off then i go to turn over engine and fuel pump turns back on after cranking awhile i hear a thump i think it is the fuel pump in the tank. if i gas it all the way while starting it will start for a second and run really rough. while all this is going on alot of clicking under the dash going on i assume fuel relays.

any help of possible problem would be appreciate, iam thinking fuel pump?

thank you ahead of time
mike

 

[caddy]

It's very rare for a fuel pump to die while driving because of the nature of the motor. Im too lazy to describe the mechanics of it though. easiest thing to check is for proper spark first, then try looking at the fuel system

 

[CTYankeeboy]

Most likely the coil. This is usually the only thing that will fail while driving. Check the spark. If you haven't changed the spark plugs regularly or you have platinum plugs you will take out the coil. Remove the dist cap and remove the screws from the coil. Take the metal plate off the back of the coil and look at the coil. IF there are spots on the coil where it looks like it has gotten hot, it needs a coil.

Craig

 

[mikefxu]

plugs are probably bad but why would platinum plugs kill it also?

oh yeah i was also told ignitor someone said probably not coil?

 

[CTYankeeboy]

95% of the time it will be the coil. That is the weakest part of the ignition system, especially on vehicles with the internal coil. But I would not replace the coil without replacing the ignitor as well because the damage to one will cause the other to fail prematurely and it is easier to do them both at the same time.

I know that this will cause a debate, but the platinum plugs (Bosch and such) burn hotter than normal plugs which cause undue stress on the system, especially when it wasn't designed to run with a platinum plug. Most of the time if a coil has failed it was either because the plugs were never changed and there is a huge gap or there is platinum plugs. Sorry, experience tells me that the platinum plugs will take out the coil faster than anything else.

Craig

PS. My two cents and 6 years of Honda dealership work

 

[mikefxu]

well i got my car back to my house last night and check to make sure the timing belt wasnt broken, it wasnt. then i pulled the spark plugs, the plug closest to the timing belt was difficult to remove and when it came out it looked horrible it seems as if the piston slammed into the plug and now all the material below the threads is in that cylinder. iam going to pull the head and see what happened. it almost seems as if there is a hole in the piston from the view through the plug hole but who knows. it seems to me a mechanical failure, could a electrical failure cause this type of damage?

thankyou