But I need some opinions of what camshafts and cam gears I should get. I want something that will have noticable hp difference while I'm still "all motor". Thanks in advance for the advice 
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Lookin to boost my JDM b16a...
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dont waste your money on cams and gears when your gonna boost later down the road. so like that guy said its either one or the other
So I should just stick with my stock cams?doug piston said:
they will be fine for when you boost it. ive even heard of vtec killer cams for boosting but i dont think you need to go that far
Oh aight....well thanks for the info brodoug piston said:
I feel like sucha n00b
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Yup. Stick with what you have until you get it booseted. Then add which cams you want.hollywood217 said:
Most people dont understand that there is a huge diference in overlap and the two setups. N/A is kinda dependent on overlap but too much will hurt it. It needs that overlap to help create a strong vacuum to pull in the A/F mixture while having the exhaust gases exit as quickly as possible.
Overlap on a turbo is not wanted at all. If there is too much overlap boost pressure will be lost from blow through. In other words the boost pressure is blow straight through the head. In the intake and out the exhaust before ever going throught the 4 stroke process.
I hope you understand this and it helps you out.
No, there are aftermarket turbo cams that supply great power gain. such as the Crower 401T which I recomend & is what Im going for. They are much better for turbo setup than stock or even CTR. the key is to have more lift & less duration, which these turbo cams provide.EDIT: ITR & CTR is not recomended, which is another resond hypeR motor are not good for boosthollywood217 said:
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There are turbo typeR's, its just not pratical. You can not boost that high with stock ITR internals, the compression is far to high & the cams have to much duration. No made how good the "tune" is you cant safely boost over 7-8psi if that on ITR internals, ITR cr is 11.1:1 not turbo friendly
and u know this from personal experience or just from what u have read? i'm not trying to be an ass but most turbo stock hondas boosting 10psi or more are not exactly "practical". i've seen firsthand a stock ITR-t make 422whp on 14psi. it runs consistant 12.7's at high altitude. ya the motor wont last long boosting that hard w/o being built specifically for the turbo but what honda motor wouldn't.92 4DoorSleeper said:
it can be done, yes it is all in the tune. please dont give off info based on opinons that u have according from what u have heard. and please dont use the high compression as an excuse, it's not that much terribly higher than that of a gsr. i know it was built more for an N/A app but that does not mean u cannot turbo charge it and make big power. hondas were not originally designed for turbos anyway but does that stop 90% of ppl from boosting their cars?
its true correctly tuned hondas can boost some pretty crazy numbers... i personally would never boost a c5 but others will and can safely but not for longHiGH_CiTY said:
I didnt say it couldnt be done, I said its not safe nor practical for the motor to handle more than 7-8psi, the GSR is capable of handling more safly with 10:1, Ive seen it done before, who hasnt. But how long as a DD that it soon f**ks up big time. I give info only based on opinions you say?? Im am not one of these entusiest that reads a turner mag all the, I am a trained tech. I am qaulified in these areas - brakes, suspension, electrical systems, & Engine Performance. So please dont make assumpsions & you dont know the person. I do this for a living. & like a said before no matter how good the tune its not going to handle high boost SAFELY, it may be tune to be able run the amount of boost, but it is not by any mean handling it safe, I doubt that it would make across town with the amount of boostHiGH_CiTY said:
so u have PERSONALLY turbo charged a ITR? seen one tunned for high boost firsthand? if u haven't then yes u ARE making assuptions based off of what u have heard or read. and like i said, NO motor that is not built specifically for turbo is going to be "safe" running high boost, ITR or not. and yes, my friends 422hp ITR has been boosted well over a year now and still holding good compression, u dont have to run full boost all the time. it makes it across town just fine 
obviously u did not read (or understand) what i said so i'm not going to continue to repeat myself. again, i'm not trying to be an ass . . .i have no problem w/ u. i am just stating real facts. and no i would not personally turbo charge an ITR if i had one.
obviously u did not read (or understand) what i said so i'm not going to continue to repeat myself. again, i'm not trying to be an ass . . .i have no problem w/ u. i am just stating real facts. and no i would not personally turbo charge an ITR if i had one.
Ive read or heard nothing, I was trained on F/I & engine performace, so I was posting on facts of whats required for F/I, I dont geuss nor post what " heard" Im not posting about this anymore because this thread has got off topic, you should do the same. It was about Boost his B16HiGH_CiTY said:so u have PERSONALLY turbo charged a ITR? seen one tunned for high boost firsthand? if u haven't then yes u ARE making assuptions based off of what u have heard or read. and like i said, NO motor that is not built specifically for turbo is going to be "safe" running high boost, ITR or not. and yes, my friends 422hp ITR has been boosted well over a year now and still holding good compression, u dont have to run full boost all the time. it makes it across town just fine
obviously u did not read (or understand) what i said so i'm not going to continue to repeat myself. again, i'm not trying to be an ass . . .i have no problem w/ u. i am just stating real facts. and no i would not personally turbo charge an ITR if i had one.
so u have not read or heard anything about this subject? (eventhough u just said u were trained) i guess you must be blessed w/ some sort of magical forced induction knowledge and skills or something then. how many motors have u turbo charged and tunned if u do this for a living?
and exactly what are the "requirements" of F/I? all u have stated is that u cannot boost more than 7-8psi on an ITR because the compression is too high. which is not true. i am just stating info gathered from my PERSONAL experience while u are stating info based off of . . . . . what? your training? no offense man but training/degrees/certifications dont really mean s**t. its all about experience
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hollywood, don't waste your money on cams for turbo. these should be one of the last things u need to upgrade, worry about more important parts first
ANY honda motor can be tunned to run high boost w/ proper fuel management, even on stock internals
and exactly what are the "requirements" of F/I? all u have stated is that u cannot boost more than 7-8psi on an ITR because the compression is too high. which is not true. i am just stating info gathered from my PERSONAL experience while u are stating info based off of . . . . . what? your training? no offense man but training/degrees/certifications dont really mean s**t. its all about experience
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hollywood, don't waste your money on cams for turbo. these should be one of the last things u need to upgrade, worry about more important parts first
ANY honda motor can be tunned to run high boost w/ proper fuel management, even on stock internals
Okay dude, obviously that was smartass, When I say real or heard I mean just some crummy tuner mag, I source my info from actual ASE books, training & plenty of pesonal experience., I have force fed enough cars. & its not all about experince, Its a mix of all the above. Just having experience or just education is not going to cut in in the actual work field. Maybe 7buck an hr mechanics job at some redneck shop is about it.HiGH_CiTY said: