More planets like earth?

toneekay

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http://gizmodo.com/5703835/the-probability-of-finding-aliens-is-now-three-times-higher



"The total number of stars in the Universe "is likely three times bigger than realized." Yale University astronomer Pieter van Dokkum says there are "possibly trillions of Earths orbiting these stars," dramatically increasing the possibility of finding alien civilizations.

According to the new study just published in Nature, new observations on the red end of the optical spectrum at the W. M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii show an overwhelming population of red dwarfs in eight massive nearby elliptical galaxies. The team has discovered that these galaxies hold twenty times more red dwarfs than the Milky Way.

Van Dokkum says that "there are possibly trillions of Earths orbiting these stars" which are "typically more than 10 billion years old." According to him, that's long enough for complex life to evolve, which is "one reason why people are interested in this type of star." In fact, astronomers discovered the first exoplanet similar to our own Earth—and therefore capable of harboring complex life—orbiting the Gliese 581 red dwarf star system, 20.3 light years from our home planet.

Carl Sagan explains why this discovery has a dramatic impact in our search for intelligent life in the Universe, using the Drake Equation:

Logically, if you increase the number of stars in the universe by three, the number of potential extraterrestrial civilizations increases by three times as well. Whether we make contact or not is another story.

The discovery doesn't only have a deep impact on the search for extraterrestrial life, but also on our understanding of galaxy formation and the Universe itself. Team member Charlie Conroy—of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics—says that this might be a sign that galaxies contain less dark matter than originally suspected, since the abundance of red dwarfs "could contribute more mass than realized" to the Universe. [Nature and Keck Observatory]"
 

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interesting. but still dont care lol
 


joe7987

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Very interesting Tonee. Astronomy is one of the most interesting sciences to me. I'm not an expert by any means, and know very little, but I find it fascinating. This especially.

Kind of along the same lines.. I found something yesterday. It used to be believed that we could never reach these far off planets, stars, systems, etc... because they were so many light years away. The fastest we can ever travel is just below the speed of light. So if something was 200 light years away, an individual would have to live to be 200 years old while traveling at the speed of light to even arrive at the planet... let alone collect data, return to earth, and live a life.

Well, they found out a way that they should be able to theoretically expand the space in front of a spacecraft, and shrink the space in front of it, essentially cutting the distance, by making the space smaller. The only problem was that the amount of energy needed to do this was about greater than the amount of energy theorized to be in the universe total.

This was until they learned about negative energy. An energy which theoretically SHOULD exist (though we have yet to discover it). If we can learn to harness this energy, we'll be traveling faster than the speed of light in due time (and maybe meeting alien civilizations).

They also did an experiment which clocked a pulse of light traveling faster than the "speed of light" (I know.. sounds counterintuitive).

Imagine if we can find and use negative energy? The applications would be infinite. Sure, space travel is one thing... but imagine how long that energy could provide electricity to the nation. Crazy stuff. I love science. Here's the article if you want to read it. It's the bottom one:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/1281811-3
 


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Oh yea.. for those who believe we're the only life in the entire universe... please watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw

Take a look at just how small and insignificant our rock is in the grand scheme of things. We are nothing. To say, without doubt, that we are the only life in the entire universe is insanity. I'm not saying we're not the only life. I'm simply saying that there is an almost infinitely larger chance that there is life out there other than us than the chance that there is not.
 

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While I'm skeptical about aliens, I find it really really hard to believe we are the only living beings in the universe.

I think finding "alien" civilizations would be fascinating but at the same time scary since we have no idea what they would do and, most likely, have no way of communicating with them.
 

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^^I'm not too worried about our interaction with alien civilizations. Learning to communicate with individuals we have never had contact with before is something we've been doing since the first time two civilizations met. Not to mention, aliens don't have to be complex, intelligent beings. Alien life could be as simple as a unicellular organism living in pond scum on some far off planet.
 

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i think the worm hole theory still stands and if you could harness the power of the universe you could just stay stationary and move the universe around you.
 

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^^I'm not too worried about our interaction with alien civilizations. Learning to communicate with individuals we have never had contact with before is something we've been doing since the first time two civilizations met. Not to mention, aliens don't have to be complex, intelligent beings. Alien life could be as simple as a unicellular organism living in pond scum on some far off planet.
Especially since the found these arsenic eaters on earth, very possible that life could exist in varying conditions that wouldnt be good for humans but something else may thrive in it. click this link below.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101202/sc_nm/us_arsenic_bacteria
 

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^^Yes... my Dad was just telling me about those... very interesting.

As far as the whole wormhole thing... Steven Hawking doesn't believe we could use it for that purpose. He says it opens room for paradoxes to occur. Take for example... you open a wormhole and see your self in the past. You take a gun and shoot and kill yourself. Now you have a paradox. If the former you died... who fired the shot? Obviously the "you" from the future couldn't shoot the "you" from the past.

But then again, Stephen Hawking isn't the end all be all.. despite his incredible awesomeness. lol.
 


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