My brakes might cause me to have an accident! SO HELP!

reg_lus

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When I drive and I brake, my brake goes in all the way. Meaning it doesnt stop at a certain point. So I always have to let go of it and step it again to make it brake better again. I have a 92 eg si converterd with 98 gsr disc converison so if you know or ever been through this problem please help! Thanks!
 

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did you bleed the system? Vacuum line on the booster? Cut line or your loosing pressure somewhere in the one of the lines.
 


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yes i bleed them already and still not working. No cut line at all but I have to check. I've checked so many places and don't know where else..
 

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Do you have fluid?
 


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Did you upgrade the MC / proportional valve when you got the brake conversion?
 

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To me sounds like the vac booster is not working correctly, the first pump no or little braking but after that you got some pressure, vac booster or lines, how does the car run? sound like a vac leak?
 

reg_lus

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it wasnt upgrade..but i think my clutch master cylinder is leaking..could that be it?
 

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the car runs quiet but like when you drive it, sounds like there's a whistle noise going with the car (like a turbo whistle noise)..very quiet though
 

stateofjustin

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Clutch and brake hydraulic systems are separate. Did you bleed the Master cylinder first before you bled the lines?

Have you checked and verified operation of the brake vacuum check valve? You should be able to diagnose this problem without driving so... STOP DRIVING THE CAR. That's kind of important. Agree w/12.8:1 and HX, sounds like bad vacuum or booster with a bad diaphragm, it could be air in the system too, but it's difficult to build much more pressure with multiple pumps if you have that much air in your lines or MC. Check under the brake booster both under the hood and under the dash board and look for brake fluid leaking out. Under the dash it will be dripping down the firewall, also hand press the brake pedal and listen for excessive air noise. Run the car parked with the e-brake on (out of gear obviously) foot OFF the brake, let it run 30 seconds and shut off. THEN depress the brakes all the way to the floor once, then lift off all the way, then do it again, lift off, and one more time. You should get 3 pumps before you can barely move the pedal. First will be close to full stroke (might be full stroke in your case, next should be 1/3rd less and the next pump the last third. If that doesn't happen, you are not getting vacuum to the booster as it hasn't stored any (it was designed to for emergencies). Could also be a leak pulling air into the booster removing the vacuum/negative pressure condition. Either way, for safety purposes, if you are not a wrench I do not recommend repairing it yourself (if you end up needing to replace the booster and MC). Stopping is too important. The most important.
 


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