no horn, and no cruise control. . . uh oh. .

Slept-n

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well wheni bought my car the sales people who lied to me told me that my horn and cruisecontrol all worked. when i drove it home none of it worked at all. so i wnet to instepct it and found out that there are soem green and yellow clips that were not plugged in, so i plugged them instill nothing. i checked all my fuses, nothing. i took out my airbag/horn and checked the clips for those. still nothing. so i'm worndering what is the problem.. . . . and how can i get it to work. . . . . . . i really don't want to spend a killing for a somethign that coudl be an easy fix. i didn't check my fuse box under the hood, the sticker lay out came off one night. so can anyone help me. . . . my car is 2000 Civic Si. please hlep me. . i'll tell you what ever you need to know. .
 

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You didn't test drive it????

I'd bring it right back to them, and get those mofo's to fix it
 


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i don't have a way of gettin gin touch with them, i did test drive it tho, i just figured it worked, that was my down fall. i mean the horn works when i use th alarm tho, and the cruise control button lights up when i press the it.
 

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does the keyless entry work?
 


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Check the fuses and if those don't work, check for a charge to the plugs. :what:
 

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here is the label under the hood for the fuses. Looks like there is one for the horn;

<--^^^^^^Windsheild of the car^^^^^-->​

<--vvvvvvvvvFront of the car vvvvvvv-->​
 

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also i'm looking for your write up for the CEL lights thing, i'm abotu to go buy the stuff. i need to know what size to get.
 

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no prlb.
the keyless entry and cruise are on the same fuse, so if the keyless works then that's not it.

I haven't done a "How to" on the CEL for the 2nd O2 sensor but I might when the weather isn't so frinking hot.
That thread is here:
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=86808

Use the instructions from the RSX "How to" forum though, it has some pics and what they did;
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=296791&highlight=simulator

here is an image (pics taken from ephatch.com) of the foulers that I was talking about, just get the part number from the pic and take it to autozone or some other parts store. It will come with 2, but your only going to use the one. Just follow the instructions from the above link, but remember that you won't be using the fouler that you didn't drill. Instead just use the drilled out fouler (you'll have to do this) and cover the end of the sensor in foil, screw the fouler on it, and screw the fouler onto the sensor and then into the cat.

 

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is your airbag light on??? if that is...it is prolly your clock spring...all the electronics have to go through that such as the cruise control horn and drive side airbag...i would check that also
 

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yes ;my SRS light is on, sometimes it comes off tho, how do i get to the "clock spring" and what should i look out for? any pics of what it should look like?
 

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you may not be able to get to your clock spring because it is under your steering wheel and you may need a steering wheel puller....but if you can get your steering wheel off it should be a black circle looking object that your airbag wires are coming out of to plug into the bag itself...the way to check to see if it works if to find a conector before it on the circuit and then check for continuity between there and the air bag connector....it so much easier to show how to do this lol....a scan tool with air bag detecion could also tell u prolly if the clock spring it bad....let me see if i can find a picture of it....


here is one for a honda accord Clock Spring

here is alittle more info on clocksprings

Clocksprings. Clocksprings are similar in function to horn contacts in the steering column in that they allow the steering wheel to turn while maintaining electrical continuity between the air bag module and the rest of the system. Despite its rugged-looking exterior, a clockspring is relatively easy to damage with improper handling. Some carmakers require that it be replaced once an air bag is deployed.

When replacing a clockspring, it's essential to position the steering wheel so the front wheels are in the straightahead position. Also, keep the clockspring in mind when removing the steering column or replacing components such as a steering rack or gear. Once again, keep the steering wheel locked in the straight-ahead position to avoid accidental damage.

hope this helps at least some what if you have any more questions feel free to ask
 

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you may not be able to get to your clock spring because it is under your steering wheel and you may need a steering wheel puller....but if you can get your steering wheel off it should be a black circle looking object that your airbag wires are coming out of to plug into the bag itself...the way to check to see if it works if to find a conector before it on the circuit and then check for continuity between there and the air bag connector....it so much easier to show how to do this lol....a scan tool with air bag detecion could also tell u prolly if the clock spring it bad....let me see if i can find a picture of it....


here is one for a honda accord Clock Spring

here is alittle more info on clocksprings

Clocksprings. Clocksprings are similar in function to horn contacts in the steering column in that they allow the steering wheel to turn while maintaining electrical continuity between the air bag module and the rest of the system. Despite its rugged-looking exterior, a clockspring is relatively easy to damage with improper handling. Some carmakers require that it be replaced once an air bag is deployed.

When replacing a clockspring, it's essential to position the steering wheel so the front wheels are in the straightahead position. Also, keep the clockspring in mind when removing the steering column or replacing components such as a steering rack or gear. Once again, keep the steering wheel locked in the straight-ahead position to avoid accidental damage.

hope this helps at least some what if you have any more questions feel free to ask

just make sure that anytime you are working with the actual airbag unit, you are VERY carefull, and lay it to teh side if you pull it yourself. Somone at the shop a few doors down almost died a few years back because he had the airbag sitting in his lap facing up and somehow got set off while he was working....
 

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yea def....just make sure you unplug the battery and let it sit for a little cause energy can still be stored to set the bag off
 

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i've removed my bag before, and nothing happened, i completely took it out unclipped and everyting,


stollibears: you have a turbo si too right? why did you have to wrap it in aluminum foil? why not use the other peice?
 

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stollibears: you have a turbo si too right? why did you have to wrap it in aluminum foil? why not use the other peice?
no turbo yet, but because I'm not using a restrictive cat (using a race cat, but might as well be a straight piece of pipe), more air gets by and sets the sensor off. I tried using the 2nd fouler, but there isn't enough clearance b/t the sensor and the car. When I tried to use both foulers, I hit a bump and the sensor hit the under side of the car stripping a wire and setting off my odometer and speedo fuse.

Why the foil? It keeps the O2 sensor from reading Oxygen. The reason it goes off is because it sees too much O2, by wrapping it with foil, it doesn't read any extra O2 passing by. It's funny cause it shouldn't read any O2 since it is wrapped, but it doesn't care about that. lol.
 

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cool thanks alot, well i'm gonna go get started on it, i'll let you know how she does!
 


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