Piecing together a turbo

[Cod Man]

I've seen a couple of "said to be" good sites randomly but they're all scattered over time and threads lol.
I'm plannin' on a t3/t4 turbo. I need some sites for good prices on everything I'll need. I'm willing to spend the money I have to, but I'ld like to find the parts for as cheap as possible. Also any reccomendations on parts are welcome. ie. brands, intercoolers, ect... Any help is appreciated. Thanks

 

[io_303]

http://www.johnnyracecar.com/ is a good place for your IC
as for the turbo, i would keep an eye on the for sale section at www.homemadeturbo.com
BOV i would just get a bosh or DSM unless you want the loud souund then go with a Turbo XS RFL

Are you planning using a Hf manifold and an adapter plate(damn you D series guys) or an actual turbo manifold?

 

[Cod Man]

What would work would come with the hf manifold? Isn't that the manifold from an old honda, not sure of the model... I have found a site with the greddy kit for 1800 so I'm thinking about that now too... This whole piecing a kit together is really owning me... What parts fit other parts that will fit my car... And from what I'm seein' the installation is going to be a bit tougher. And which IC would I need from johnnyracecar? Which outlets? They are a lot cheaper than any ICs I've seen though.

 

[potatobiker8]

what site u see the greddy kit for 1800?

 

[C.F. Freak]

what site u see the greddy kit for 1800?

Just taking a shot in the dark here, but probably Andy's Auto Sport (andysautosport.com) They carry Greddy kits for a lot of cars for under $2000.

 

[io_303]

What would work would come with the hf manifold? Isn't that the manifold from an old honda, not sure of the model... I have found a site with the greddy kit for 1800 so I'm thinking about that now too... This whole piecing a kit together is really owning me... What parts fit other parts that will fit my car... And from what I'm seein' the installation is going to be a bit tougher. And which IC would I need from johnnyracecar? Which outlets? They are a lot cheaper than any ICs I've seen though.

The hf manifold all that is required is an adapter plate. The hf manifold comes offa 4th gen CRX Hf or a 4th gen STD. The adapter plate will run you just under $80

THe JRC IC all you need is the 5" IC, the outlets are going to depend on what size charge pipe you use.

 

[rickles8099]

i have the johnnyracecar 6" classic intercooler. besides some of the bumper cover, it bolts right on the front of my crx. heres a pic of the final install. enjoy

and it sells for the mere price of $190

 

[joe7987]

This whole piecing a kit together is really owning me... What parts fit other parts that will fit my car... And from what I'm seein' the installation is going to be a bit tougher. And which IC would I need from johnnyracecar? Which outlets? They are a lot cheaper than any ICs I've seen though.

Honestly.. if you want to go custom... then don't change your mind because it looks too hard. Research how a turbo set up works (if you havent).. what is needed.. look at other peoples set ups.. look at peoples kits actually on the car... and eventually all at once, you'll be like "Holy s**t.. it all makes sense now". lol. Don't give up.. unless you get a damn good deal on a kit =oP

 

[io_303]

Looks at ricks avatar for what the HF manifold looks like

 

[VTEC]

hey im not trying to put down anyone here that has jonny race car intercoolers but i know a few people with them and they said they suck, they are nice cause you can fill your grill but whats the point unless you have a 1000hp car.

 

[rickles8099]

hey im not trying to put down anyone here that has jonny race car intercoolers but i know a few people with them and they said they suck, they are nice cause you can fill your grill but whats the point unless you have a 1000hp car.

why would you need a 1000hp car to use one? the purpose of an intercooler is to cool the air going into the intake. wether its small or large, an intercooler will cool the air. a larger intercooler will cool the air more, but you will have a couple of psi lost and a little lag, but you can overcome the loss in psi if you have an external wastegate and it is measuring the boost after the intercooler instead of before. lag... just run smaller piping. if you have a high hp motor, just run bigger piping. also the price of an intercooler from johnnyracecar is unbeatable. for the same intercooler from greddy it will cost well over $500.

 

[rickles8099]

Looks at ricks avatar for what the HF manifold looks like

heres a couple of more pics to let you see better.

 

[Cod Man]

I found the greddy kit for 1800 on speedaction.net. Here. The same kit is 2400 on andys. What do you think about it? And what is the "e-manage"? I've done my fair share of reading up on it. Sometimes it makes sense and sometimes I'm just like screw it. lol The only questions I'm having with a custom kit is ya know, which parts will fit which other parts that fit my car... ya know what I'm talking about. Well I gotta go or I'ld go on for a little while. later

 

[turboej7]

The greddy kit is nice... cause you should get everything you need including a piggy back (blue box) that will run for the time being, as long as they also give you the right size injectors which im not sure if they do. The only thing that sucks about greddy kits is that there wastegates are internal instead of external... so basically there a great starter kit but will cost more to change up down the road for more boost.

If you dont have a list of what you need... here is a run down... hope i dont miss anything.... keep in mind this is for a safe set up.

turbo (your choice on size)
manifold (depends on car)
bov (dsm to hks to turbo xl... just make sure to get the adaptor for the piping)
piping
intercooler (hell it dont matter.... i had one that was three dsm welded together)
wastegate (varies if you are internal or external - tial is good for external)
down pipe
fuel system - injectors, fuel pressure regulator, fmu (but wouldnt suggest it), a better fuel pump if you can afford it.
Spark - msd 6al, external coil, cap w/ external coil application, good plug wires
Guages - boost is a must, highly suggest oil pressure, egt is nice but not necessary, air/fuel (but dont get autometer - get one from hondata or anyother real time reader provider)
ECU - the heart it all... E-manage or aem or my personal favorite hondata - cheapest other than uberdata.

and last but not least.... an extra set of tires... so you can do some kick ass smoky burnouts !

 

[Cod Man]

thank you, thats almost exactly what I needed. I hate reading about all this crap, where they're always like you only need this if... blah blah blah. lol I just needed to know excatly what I neededNobody has reccomended a greddy type s bov. Is there a reason? Theres a BOV Comparison video in the vid section. I reall like the way it sounds. Would you reccomend a kit or a custom kit for money and ease of installation? Because I don't really want there to be a chance that I'm gonna screw something up installing it, cus I'm def. doing it myself. Thats why I'm leaning toward a kit. How much could I piece one together for... (in the ballpark) It will be on all stock internals except for a .40 bore and higher compression pistons (I think, I don't really remember lol) for a while, so I'm not looking for like anything above like 7-8 PSI. Thanks agian for the help.

 

[io_303]

There is nothing wrong with the type s, its mostly what kind of sound you want. DSM or Bosh is only going to run you about $20 where the type s is a little more, and they all do the same thing.

The kit would be an easy install, but custom is going to be cheaper. Its up to you what you want on that one

Ball park would be somewhere between 500-1500 depending on parts and deals you find

If you are going to build the internals you want to go with a lower CR not higher. 5-8 psi will be fine on stock, there is no nead to bore, maybe just a rebuild if that.

 

[Cod Man]

That is what is alredy done to the motor in my tottaled ex. It was freshly rebiult. It had about 7000 miles on it when I had the wreck, so I'm puttin' that motor in before I install the turbo. Instead of my 256000 mile hx motor lol. I've read up on the high compression pistions and boost and I understand that so I'm not worried about it. Thanks for all the info guys if I have any more questions I'll post 'em up.
EDIT: Two questions. Where is the BOV? And what stage clutch would I have to get? Because I'm sure stock wouldn't cut it.

 

[cberman]

for an intercooler, register at homemadeturbo.com...you will then be able to go into their forsale section....One of the first posts stickied in the for sale section is brand new Custom Coach 6" FMIC's for $130 Shipped

 

[io_303]

for an intercooler, register at homemadeturbo.com...you will then be able to go into their forsale section....One of the first posts stickied in the for sale section is brand new Custom Coach 6" FMIC's for $130 Shipped

I missed that one, I might have to go look for my setup.

That is what is alredy done to the motor in my tottaled ex. It was freshly rebiult. It had about 7000 miles on it when I had the wreck, so I'm puttin' that motor in before I install the turbo. Instead of my 256000 mile hx motor lol. I've read up on the high compression pistions and boost and I understand that so I'm not worried about it. Thanks for all the info guys if I have any more questions I'll post 'em up.
EDIT: Two questions. Where is the BOV? And what stage clutch would I have to get? Because I'm sure stock wouldn't cut it.

the BOV goes between your turbo and your throttlebody. The best place for it is anywhere after the IC and before the throttlebody, but can go anywhere on the charge piping.

As for clutch, stage is subjective to the one who makes the clutch. A CM stage 2 is diffrent that say another companies stage 2. What you are looking fo is holding power above stock. I would say anything over 60% would be good, but dont go to much if you still want it to be a DD.

 

[Cod Man]

Yeah, its gonna be a DD so I don't want one thats gonna shoot my leg through the roof lol