please help

[civic sucker]

Ive had this civic for 2 years and recently Ive been having a problem during startup, when I turn it over it will idle high but viberat the car then it will decres the idle to 6 rpm and continue to idle rouff it happens for about 10 secounds and wont move when it happens.
Ive cleaned the fuel rail and injectors, replaced the fuel filter, air filter and adjusted the idle screw on top of the throttle body, I dont really know where to go after that other than the pcv valve but its not where the book says it is????? my coolent is also slowly going someware but not on the ground. there is no leaks is it going into my oil. man I really need some help with this car. any advice would be helpfull thanks.

 

[00siboy]

First, please post model and engine.

So after the 10 seconds the car idles fine? You could try cleaning the IACV or FITV. If you are losing coolant and have air in the system your idle will be bad because the idle control is getting bad readings. And usually if you are losing coolant internally it can only be the headgasket or cracked block/head (which is worse case of course).

Check your oil and see if its milky, if so then you probably have a headgasket issue.

 

[civic sucker]

1996 Honda Civic lx 1.8 ltr I think, sohc . with 150,000 miles
THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY
Ive been hard at work since the last time I sent the last one out so heres where im at
ive been keeping a close eye on it regulerly with the dip stick and when I change the oil but no signs of the coolent being in there.. my guess is that when it sits for a while it leaks into the cylender head and when I go to start it it was burning coolent and making it run ruff but a coolent pressure test hooked to the system showed no results of it going anywhere . so I did that flush stuff that goes into the radeator and I dont see any more fluid leaving the resurve tank as fast now thank god for that.
I cleaned the trottle body wiping it out and put a new gasket on it and cleaned the map sensor while I was at it and also I replaced the Idle air control valve and no change in the start up, but now it idles a little lower after it worms up witch is good around 650 to 850 rpm
I just got done checking all the fuel pressure tests and It drops really fast when my car turns off 1 too 2 pounds a second... I did the checks for the pressure regulator and the diafram isent leaking fuel and it drops the pressure about 10 pounds but it drops lower than spec. I think is says 38 to 50 pds of pressure and it drops to 31 - 32 pounds with the regulator vacume applied ? I will also check the voltage at the pump with the wiring harness next but my book dosent give me any voltage to go off of for what is normal and what is low do you happen to know what that might be by any chance ??? if you dont ill just get a jug that mesures liters and see how much it pumps out in 30 seconds out of the fuel return but that sounds really messey .
I also did comperssing and spark test for all cylenders witch came out to be 160 pounds and with in 2 pounds of each cylender. and checked the top to the cylender with a stethiscope becouse I was hearing a clicking and a humming sound coming from one of the cylenders. I think its a exoust valve.
Now if that sticks after it cools down and sticks .during startup whould that make my car lug at startup as well?
And one more thing ive noticed today when I started it I herd a loud sqeal out of the engen whitch is a belt of course but tensions good on all or them but would a bad bearing in one of the pullys hold the car back from starting with a lugging untill it frees up? the timing belt needs to be replaced speaking of belts Im not sure when it was replaced last ..... man ow man I dont like how many verables there are here in this situation but 1 step at a time and with a lot of help. and as many ideas of what it can be its driving my crazy and I just want it to stop.

 

[civic sucker]

o.k. maybe this will help a little to help solve this issue or issues.

When my girl was driving yesterday the car made a knock sound and started to lug, almost like it was now hauling a large traller, and almost dieing at stop sighs. Her A/C unit was on and I told her to try turning it off. she did and it went away and came back when she turned it back on? dose the A/C compressor pull harder if it running low on refrigerent??? I know that on that same belt driving it is the alternator soo just leaving it off isnt a option for us . No check engin light came on or flickered on and off.. hmmmmmmmm well im going to loosen the tension on that belt before I start it again in the moring and have a hand code diagnoster adapted to it to see if I get anything anyways. I'll also check the pulleys for a bad bearing in the loop of the belt and tell you what I come up with.. but any suggestions of couse would be very very apriceated thanks

 

[civic sucker]

o.k. that squil was indeed the compressor... when it would engage the cluch with the a/c it was binding up.. that compressor's toast now but I did the initial start and it lugged b4 I disconnected the compressor. but that probblem was easy but a expensive fix . no codes where stored in the ecu eather. I guess ill w8 for that innitial start again to see if that was the problem all along.

 

[army4life]

Hmmmm...I don't really have an answer for you, but the comedic value of the misspelling and grammatical errors of the thread have me intrigued. SUBSCRIBED!

 

[army4life]

Also, the A/C compressor will severely drain any power you have, which I am sure you are aware. I am pretty new to the game in most respects, so correct me if I am wrong, but the 6th generation LX is non-VTEC, so you're at an even greater disadvantage when it comes to running A/C and driving with any sense of urgency...

 

[civic sucker]

Honda lugging solved

It was the compressor all along. started it up this morning and... thank god no lugging Its finaly over. I would of kept going on troubleshooting and diagnosting if it did not break on me lol . never been soo happy for some thing to break on me in my life. you are right it is not a v-tec


Thank you every one for giving me imput and fighting trough the sloppy spelled posts that ive been making
I hope this helps someone in the futer so they do not go through what I did

 

[army4life]

Well the good news is that we are finally on the back side of the heat, so you won't have to run out and spend a bunch of money on a part you won't need for a while. I'm glad you were able to figure it out and get it back on the road.