Question on nitrous..

[chimmychongaz]

Would it be better to run nitrous using low compression pistons or on higher compression pistons..such as ZC pistons? Or does it even matter?

 

[stealthy]

low would be your best bet

 

[chimmychongaz]

Okay. Thanks for your help!

 

[stealthy]

bump for more replies, im not the hippest on nitrous tho

 

[chimmychongaz]

Well, I also decided to build my own turbo, so, lower compression it is!

 

[24-7]

The guy that worked on my head builds nitrous v8s and he uses 14:1 in his race motors.

 

[oc_civic]

high compresion + nitrous ='s breakage

unless we are talking about some rediculously strong build....you can spray on a stock internaled civic motor..

 

[DirtyD]

http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=9878&highlight=nitrous+FAQ

 

[*Guest*]

In my opinion you dont need anything to run a 50 shot dry system but what i dont like about 50 shot dry is that you really dont notice an increase unless you time it on a track, the gains on your timeslips you can expect are about 5tenths to 7tenths of a second. If you use single fogger (poor mans wet system) this is much more noticeable than dry systems however this is the most dangerous set up due to uneven distribution of nitrous into your cylinders. With single fogger set up you will need to get colder step spark plugs and a fuel pump. Finally the best set up in my opinion is direct port. It is the most noticeable but i think you can only start at a minimum of 80 shot or 20 horse power per cylinder this set up injects NOS and fuel evenly into each port you will need one to two step colder plugs and an inline fuel pump and retard the timing 1-3 degres you can do up to 100 shot with minimal risks if you go higher like 120 or 140 you will need to build your engine with pistons,rods,sleeves,metal head gasket, etc etc ...

 

[stealthy]

i def wouldnt spray more than 75 or 80 on a stock motor

 

[chimmychongaz]

Well currently, I got a d16z6 head in my bedroom, and i'm putting the y8 intake manny, aem fuel rail, zex stage 1 camshaft, and aem camgear. thats all for my soon mini me swap. While I'm doing the swap I'm gonna upgrade to eagle H beam rods and nippon turbo pistons. I'll probably go with a wet shot of n2o. What kind of shot would I be able to safely use with that set up?

Im Planning on using a d16y8 head gasket. Isn't it made of metal? Or is it metal, but too thin?

 

[EliteCivicEK]

at my shop we did a 100 shot in a 94 civic sedan... stock motor with basic bolt ons... and the first time he sprayed he blew his head lol.. bottom end is fine and we put a y8 head on and he sprayed it and it has been fine since.. i still suggest building your motor

 

[chimmychongaz]

i thought i kind of was... ??

 

[stealthy]

thats what im saying, on a stock motor stick with a 50-55 shot, but thats not the case we have here....

 

[turbolence]

low will be good but for track use only. driving a car around wit real low compression will make the car real slow. but wit nos you could hit it with a hard shot of nos. if its for street use leave it the same compression just retard the timing and get colder spark plugs.

 

[oc_civic]

In my opinion you dont need anything to run a 50 shot dry system but what i dont like about 50 shot dry is that you really dont notice an increase ...

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about... on a 130 hp car its more than a %30 increase... what your saying is something that someone with no nitrous exp would say... i hope no one listens to this... its ridiculous...

 

[oc_civic]

the gains on your timeslips you can expect are about 5tenths to 7tenths of a second.

bullshit

. If you use single fogger (poor mans wet system) this is much more noticeable than dry systems ...

wrong again.. the "shot" size refers to a combination of jet sizes to obtain said hp.. ie an nx 50shot is 50hp.. an NOS 50 shot dry is the same.. the ONLY difference seems to be all the other factors, and measuring at the wheels or motor...

however this is the most dangerous set up due to uneven distribution of nitrous into your cylinders....

bullshit again... a dry setup is the most risky and heres why.. a dry set up induced nitrous oxide directly into the intake track, this is sent into the intake manifold however it flows, it is not port specific.. the additional fuel is added via the injectors, so the problem that you have is the exact fuel distribution paired with the rand0m nitrous distribution.. a single fogger kit is better because although it is also introduced via the intake, the fuel is mixed and vaporized with the nitrous and distributed to each cyl on a pretty even level due to it being mixed... the NX wet kit is one of the best kits out and that is a single fogger wet kit..

With single fogger set up you will need to get colder step spark plugs and a fuel pump....

Utilizing the patented "Shark" nozzle, these systems are fully adjustable, 35,50,75 horsepower for 4 cylinder and V-6 applications, and up to 150h.p. for V-8 and V-12 cars. These systems require no engine modifications, operate on stock fuel pumps, and require no timing retards. The ultimate solution to make your import a "Rocket". Any horsepower settings above the recommended levels require "NX Power Booster" fuel additive to prevent detonation.

again you are totally wrong.. this is directly from the website of NX about the fogger they sell

Finally the best set up in my opinion is direct port. It is the most noticeable but i think you can only start at a minimum of 80 shot or 20 horse power per cylinder this set up injects NOS and fuel evenly into each port you will need one to two step colder plugs and an inline fuel pump and retard the timing 1-3 degres you can do up to 100 shot with minimal risks if you go higher like 120 or 140 you will need to build your engine with pistons,rods,sleeves,metal head gasket, etc etc ...

direct port nitrous is probably WAY over kill on a honda.. its a good setup but over kill.. id go with the newer inline injector setups..

please dont post when you have no idea what you are talking about..

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Well currently, I got a d16z6 head in my bedroom, and i'm putting the y8 intake manny, aem fuel rail, zex stage 1 camshaft, and aem camgear. thats all for my soon mini me swap. While I'm doing the swap I'm gonna upgrade to eagle H beam rods and nippon turbo pistons. I'll probably go with a wet shot of n2o. What kind of shot would I be able to safely use with that set up?

Im Planning on using a d16y8 head gasket. Isn't it made of metal? Or is it metal, but too thin?

dude hook me up with your y8 camshaft!!!!