The REAL cost of a B swap

[chimchim]

I'm dying to do a B swap. But I'm figuring the budget and it's blowing my mind since it's not enough to just do a B swap....

So how much did you guys spend anyways?

- buy B16 engine for like $2000 or whatever
- have it cleaned up and installed for like $1500 or whatever?
- doesn't fit the EX tranny so get a Si one to fit?
- needs compatible intake so buy AEM cuz your D16 one won't fit
- needs compatible exhaust so buy a DC Sports cuz you might as well $300
- doesn't fit exhaust so buy Si compatible Apexi or whatever $550
- more powerful engine needs better shocks/brakes setup so buy a whole set of both... > $3000

That's like > $10k!!! Might as well sell my stockie and buy a 99 Si with 50k miles on it, eh?

 

[lanojp1]

well just swap and done worry about those i.h.e mods for now...

 

[anekin007]

it all depends on how much money you have. complete b16a2 swap can run you about 2k-$2.5k. engine, ecu, tranny axels, so on, and so on. if you can afford, i would get the b18c that is about $3k-$3.5k. installation is about $500. the ex and si exhaust are the same. im not sure about the cat though. supspension is almost same as ex. but the rear is disc, there are some ex with rear disc but they are rare. suspension for ex and si is not much difference. si may have little bit thicker sway bar. shocks and springs are the same.

 

[Limit-98Vic]

ya ide go with the b18c.....what is this b20 shanangin ive heard here and there...is it a bored out b18? or is it an acucaly engine?

 

[Mxpx182lit]

its an actual engine, i dunno what gen but my frind has a turbo b20 in a 1991 Prelude Si. Ive seen teh code on teh block and sure enogh it says B20

 

[Silver-Shooter]

add 300-500 to the price of the motor package if you're a manual tranny

add another 500 if its an AT

 

[Sound Streamin']

B20 is out of a CRV. You add a vtec head off of a b18 or a b16 to it to make it usefull.

 

[777sc]

if you want real power but there is gonna be alot more work involved id say go H22 (prelude) but you can get alot of power out of a b16 and then down the line get a 1.8block and throw that b16 tranny and head on it also down the line

if you wanna go the cheap route id say buy a b18b and turbo it 8)

 

[yomuppet]

I thought the B20 everyone was after was the JDM B20z since the B20b (CRV engine, USDM) was kinda lame. I could be on crack, but I thought I read that a few different places.

 

[Limit-98Vic]

Originally posted by
if you want real power but there is gonna be alot more work involved id say go H22 (prelude) but you can get alot of power out of a b16 and then down the line get a 1.8block and throw that b16 tranny and head on it also down the line

if you wanna go the cheap route id say buy a b18b and turbo it

I agree
but the h22A would be the best swap, 220 hp stock, but its made in japan. would take alot to mod it to US ex

 

[ryan_hermes]

yeah you should just install the engine yourself you can find a guide, and just buy ome mounts

 

[Limit-98Vic]

eeeh dont know about yourself, but take it to someone you trust, unless you have the knowledge.

 

[Hesus]

you lucky, you live in US. you can get all the parts needed, from some integra or so.
i can not get lot of needed parts, if i want to make a b series swap. i have already a B16 engine, if making a swap i would need 1300$ more to get it in - axles, tranny.... so i will buy me a `92 SiR - 2200$

 

[jeffk182]

If you get a b16, all the mods are for a Civic SI...so yea haha. Im sure everyone knows that.

 

[Martin Racing Design]

Originally posted by chimchim
I'm dying to do a B swap. But I'm figuring the budget and it's blowing my mind since it's not enough to just do a B swap....

So how much did you guys spend anyways?

- buy B16 engine for like $2000 or whatever
- have it cleaned up and installed for like $1500 or whatever?
- doesn't fit the EX tranny so get a Si one to fit?
- needs compatible intake so buy AEM cuz your D16 one won't fit
- needs compatible exhaust so buy a DC Sports cuz you might as well $300
- doesn't fit exhaust so buy Si compatible Apexi or whatever $550
- more powerful engine needs better shocks/brakes setup so buy a whole set of both... > $3000

That's like > $10k!!! Might as well sell my stockie and buy a 99 Si with 50k miles on it, eh?

800$ for rebuilt NSX brakes and H&K racing cup suspension. (Or go with the Legend brakes.. similar design to NSX)
And for the rest of that s**t, hit up the junkyard man!

 

[Silver-Shooter]

Originally posted by chimchim

- buy B16 engine for like $2000 or whatever
- have it cleaned up and installed for like $1500 or whatever?
- doesn't fit the EX tranny so get a Si one to fit?
- needs compatible intake so buy AEM cuz your D16 one won't fit
- needs compatible exhaust so buy a DC Sports cuz you might as well $300
- doesn't fit exhaust so buy Si compatible Apexi or whatever $550
- more powerful engine needs better shocks/brakes setup so buy a whole set of both... > $3000

That's like > $10k!!! Might as well sell my stockie and buy a 99 Si with 50k miles on it, eh?

-2599 for an obd2 b16A w/ LSD tranny swap(includes... motor, tranny, clutch/flywheel, axles, ecu, shift linkage, all attached components, starter, alternator, sensor, t.body, JDM wire loom, distributor)
-installation... non-VTEC 350-450 VTEC equipped model- 250-350 AT swap included... 500-600 with parts
-Intake 150-200
-Muffler shop custom muffler/ piping/ cat 300
-Front and rear disc brake upgrade from an integra... 400
-high performance pads... 60
-Shocks... 300-400

total...

DX AT - 4959
DX MT - 4359
EX/HX MT - 4259

btw... that is COMPLETE swap... most just get the motor and the intake/ exhaust. the brakes and shocks should either be done or get done after the swap. hell you could just upgrade your pads/lines and call it a day.

parts prices are courtesy of www.passwordjdm.com

 

[Martin Racing Design]

why wouldnt you go OBD1? OBD2 is harder to tune

 

[Silver-Shooter]

Originally posted by CarbonCreations
why wouldnt you go OBD1? OBD2 is harder to tune

its the most expensive... just subtract from that to do an obd1 swap or non-lsd whatev.

 

[Martin Racing Design]

Originally posted by Silver-Shooter
its the most expensive... just subtract from that to do an obd1 swap or non-lsd whatev.

plus i just realized that in some states, Ek's can't put ODB1 in. Mainly thinking Cali. because you have to swap a same year or newer motor.

 

[Silver-Shooter]

Originally posted by CarbonCreations
plus i just realized that in some states, Ek's can't put ODB1 in. Mainly thinking Cali. because you have to swap a same year or newer motor.