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Well, its not the struts that will change the camber (unless you lower the car via just the strut). If you lower the car with these new springs/struts then the camber will need to be adjusted. The stock cambers can be adjusted only so much. After that you need a camber kit so you can adjust it more. How much are planning on lowerng the car's height?
This is what happens if you don't!!!
There actully alot of factors. Personally I believe that lowering it 1.5 with anything equal to or bigger then 17's are probably gonna throw the camber off to the point where the stock cambers won't be able to fix the negative camber. If you want to try and save money simply get the coil-overs and struts installed and get an alginment. they will do it as much as they can (if its a good shop they will know a few tricks as well).
If you get your self the SPC camber kit you can get some poly bushings to increase the suspension a little bit. Somethin to think about (Then you never have to worry bout your tires running out to fast)
If you get your self the SPC camber kit you can get some poly bushings to increase the suspension a little bit. Somethin to think about (Then you never have to worry bout your tires running out to fast)
Originally posted by ImportRacerFF
This is what happens if you don't!!!
thats what your tires will look like if you dont get an alignment.....
my civic had more than 6 degrees negative, and my tires never looked like that cause i had an alignment.
Originally posted by ImportRacerFF
There actully alot of factors. Personally I believe that lowering it 1.5 with anything equal to or bigger then 17's are probably gonna throw the camber off to the point where the stock cambers won't be able to fix the negative camber.
as for "stock cambers being able to fix the negative camber" you cant adjust camber on stock civics or integras, toe is what kills tires the most. what are "stock cambers" anyway? and how would they fix negative camber?
also you how much air is in those things??? max pressure?
also, you can flip them to even the wear out from inside to outside
There are stock cambers, which is how alignments are done. If there were no cambers then people wouldn't be able to put on a different size wheel without having a positive/negative camber. The problem is the stock camber alows for only a certain amount of adjustment, and a "camber kit" replaces these stock parts for ones that allow more adjustment
The front is easily adjusted by adjusting the upper control arm. Tilting the tire in/out to adjust for neg/pos "toe" or camber.
The rear (on civics) can be tilted out by increasing a certain bolt lenght and adding washers. T(I did not do this only reasearched it so please let me know if im explaining it wrong). here are also camber kits for the rear as well that include lower control arms (I have SPC's)
My car was lowerd to the point where there was only 1/2 in between the tire and the fender when my tires ran as low as shown above. That is an extreme drop for a civic and shouldn't have been done, especially w/ out a camber kit. So i upgraded my camber's with SPC's and there was still a negative camber with that much of a drop (never the less my head would hurt like hell because it was so damn bumpy) so i raised the car untill the camber was a perfect (close to perfect) match.
The front is easily adjusted by adjusting the upper control arm. Tilting the tire in/out to adjust for neg/pos "toe" or camber.
The rear (on civics) can be tilted out by increasing a certain bolt lenght and adding washers. T(I did not do this only reasearched it so please let me know if im explaining it wrong). here are also camber kits for the rear as well that include lower control arms (I have SPC's)
My car was lowerd to the point where there was only 1/2 in between the tire and the fender when my tires ran as low as shown above. That is an extreme drop for a civic and shouldn't have been done, especially w/ out a camber kit. So i upgraded my camber's with SPC's and there was still a negative camber with that much of a drop (never the less my head would hurt like hell because it was so damn bumpy) so i raised the car untill the camber was a perfect (close to perfect) match.
Toe = The amount the wheel is pointed in or out. Known as "In Or Out Toe" Pretend your looking down at your car from above. Looking at the front tires, if you had a Toe In you would have a V shape. The Front edges of the tire are more out. The rear edges more in. (Going towards the front of the car). This affects turning and your turn radious.
Camber= The Degree at which wheel sits. It is in relative to the road. A 0 Degree Camber would mean its flush with road. Most cars have .5 Degree Camber (because roads aren't flat due to water drainaige). When you lower a car the control arms (eventually) connect to the tire, and because you have lowered the car the control arms make the tire (generally the top) move in towards the car. This causes the car to run on the inside of the tire, which wears the tire down much quicker. By replacing the camber you can adjust this camber amount and "push" the tire to lesser degree. (all generic terms due to all cars ahve different suspensions)
The reason Toe is created on certain cars that are lowerd is because of the way the suspension system works. If there is any angle in the control arms the tires would toe in/out. However, you should not be running on a large degree of negative camber, therfore when you align the wheels the toe return to the way it was originaly.
Lowering tire pressure causes more of the tire surface area to touch the road, allowing heat to be distributed more evenly. However, this will not fix a negative camber of more then a few half degrees. (Keep in mind running high pressure will cause the opposite effect as well)
Camber= The Degree at which wheel sits. It is in relative to the road. A 0 Degree Camber would mean its flush with road. Most cars have .5 Degree Camber (because roads aren't flat due to water drainaige). When you lower a car the control arms (eventually) connect to the tire, and because you have lowered the car the control arms make the tire (generally the top) move in towards the car. This causes the car to run on the inside of the tire, which wears the tire down much quicker. By replacing the camber you can adjust this camber amount and "push" the tire to lesser degree. (all generic terms due to all cars ahve different suspensions)
The reason Toe is created on certain cars that are lowerd is because of the way the suspension system works. If there is any angle in the control arms the tires would toe in/out. However, you should not be running on a large degree of negative camber, therfore when you align the wheels the toe return to the way it was originaly.
Lowering tire pressure causes more of the tire surface area to touch the road, allowing heat to be distributed more evenly. However, this will not fix a negative camber of more then a few half degrees. (Keep in mind running high pressure will cause the opposite effect as well)
I don't remember, a bunch of different ones. It's just what i learned when i was researching it when I had to replace my cambers which was a while a back.
as far as flipping my tires, it would be kinda useless, you got imagine that this happned within no more then 30 days, it would have given me maybe 2 weeks off them, but at that point the tires were so worn down they were to dangerous to run, I wouldnt even want to use them on the street.
as far as flipping my tires, it would be kinda useless, you got imagine that this happned within no more then 30 days, it would have given me maybe 2 weeks off them, but at that point the tires were so worn down they were to dangerous to run, I wouldnt even want to use them on the street.
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There is no part called a camber. But you can adjust the camber (which is the degree). You do this mainly from control arms (at least thats how I did it w/ my civic, im sure there are other methods). I was just saying there are stock camber adjusting mechanisms on the car. This how an alignment is done.
There is no part called a camber. But you can adjust the camber (which is the degree). You do this mainly from control arms (at least thats how I did it w/ my civic, im sure there are other methods). I was just saying there are stock camber adjusting mechanisms on the car. This how an alignment is done.
I agree I still got plenty to learn, but I have always heard and always refer to the control arms (upper, lower) and the steering knuckle ect as cambers sence they adjust the camber of the car. I apologize for using local terms.