Trouble with my 98 Civic Dx

thePricewasWrong

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I own a 1998 Honda Civic Dx (automatic trans.), it has over 184K miles. I decided to change the oil last Friday (7/10/15).Instead of putting 5w-30, I unknowingly put in 10w-30. My car didn’t show any signs or symptoms at first until the following Tuesday (7/14/15) when on my way to work, I started having idling problems. Once I realized that my car wasn’t acting the way it should, I pulled over at a vacant parking lot by my job and checked the fluid levels. Not only did I put in the wrong motor oil, the dipstick indicated that I added too much. So I drained the excess amount and test drove it to see if that would at least fix the problem but it only seemed to get worse. So I waited until I got off work to change the motor oil back to 5w-30. That didn’t seem to help much either. The next couple of days the idling was getting pretty worse to the point of stalling every time I came to a complete stop, and when I accelerated it would sound what seem to be backfire coming from the muffler.

This past Friday, I went to visit my buddy so he could check to see what was going on with my car, he had a diagnostic tester so we plugged it in and we got the code P-0302 “Cylinder misfire”, so we decided do a wet/dry engine compression test and while we were at it we also inspected the condition of each spark plug. Each spark plug looked good, there was good compression all around and the fuel pressure looked good. We checked the codes to see if anything would pop up but we didn’t get anything on the diagnostic tester, but when it came to starting up the car after the test was finished, it wouldn’t turn over. Now the car has a hard time keeping the RPMs above 0 without it stalling.

The next day I drove my Civic (which was stalling at nearly every light and stop sign) to a nearby tire and battery shop so that I could use their diagnostic tester to see what exactly was going on in my car. We still got misfire codes but now for cylinders 1, 3 and 4. I guess since driving my car in this condition I was running on basically one cylinder, so we decided to recheck the sparkplugs and to our discovery the tips were blackened, the distributor cap and rotor had real bad corrosion and we barely put those in this past February, the spark plug wires looked new but we weren't taking any chances, so we just went ahead and bought new spark plugs, spark plug wires and a new distributor cap and rotor. But still with everything installed there really was no difference at all and we still got misfire codes.

Next we pulled the spark plugs wires from cylinder 1 and 2 but had no effect on the rough idle and we also pulled off the fuel injector connectors while idling on cylinder 1 and 2 but those still had no effect on the rough idle.

So far, my buddy and I are stumped as of this moment as to what is wrong with my car, I apologize for the long story, but I’m trying to remember every detail out there so that it could be clear for those of you reading this, so what do you folks out there think the problem might be?

Thank you.
 

mc360

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If cylinder one and two don't change when pulling the spark plug wires or injector clips then you have bad wires, plugs or possibly injectors that are going bad. Have you tested for spark on all cylinders? Maybe the spark is weak or non existant in those cylinders.

 


thePricewasWrong

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Well, the injectors are fine they're all working and tested their resistance they were all within spec and the spark is strong with the new ignition coil that just installed.
 

HeX

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First off, using 10w30 in place of 5w30 wont cause any issue, especially in that short of a time frame. Running too much oil usually may can problems if its done for a long period of time, which you didnt seem to do.

Out of curiousity, what brand of parts did you use for the cap, rotor, wires & plugs? Have you changed the fuel filter?
 


Joe Mason

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I own a 1998 Honda Civic Dx (automatic trans.), it has over 184K miles. I decided to change the oil last Friday (7/10/15).Instead of putting 5w-30, I unknowingly put in 10w-30. My car didn’t show any signs or symptoms at first until the following Tuesday (7/14/15) when on my way to work, I started having idling problems. Once I realized that my car wasn’t acting the way it should, I pulled over at a vacant parking lot by my job and checked the fluid levels. Not only did I put in the wrong motor oil, the dipstick indicated that I added too much. So I drained the excess amount and test drove it to see if that would at least fix the problem but it only seemed to get worse. So I waited until I got off work to change the motor oil back to 5w-30. That didn’t seem to help much either. The next couple of days the idling was getting pretty worse to the point of stalling every time I came to a complete stop, and when I accelerated it would sound what seem to be backfire coming from the muffler.

This past Friday, I went to visit my buddy so he could check to see what was going on with my car, he had a diagnostic tester so we plugged it in and we got the code P-0302 “Cylinder misfire”, so we decided do a wet/dry engine compression test and while we were at it we also inspected the condition of each spark plug. Each spark plug looked good, there was good compression all around and the fuel pressure looked good. We checked the codes to see if anything would pop up but we didn’t get anything on the diagnostic tester, but when it came to starting up the car after the test was finished, it wouldn’t turn over. Now the car has a hard time keeping the RPMs above 0 without it stalling.

The next day I drove my Civic (which was stalling at nearly every light and stop sign) to a nearby tire and battery shop so that I could use their diagnostic tester to see what exactly was going on in my car. We still got misfire codes but now for cylinders 1, 3 and 4. I guess since driving my car in this condition I was running on basically one cylinder, so we decided to recheck the sparkplugs and to our discovery the tips were blackened, the distributor cap and rotor had real bad corrosion and we barely put those in this past February, the spark plug wires looked new but we weren't taking any chances, so we just went ahead and bought new spark plugs, spark plug wires and a new distributor cap and rotor. But still with everything installed there really was no difference at all and we still got misfire codes.

Next we pulled the spark plugs wires from cylinder 1 and 2 but had no effect on the rough idle and we also pulled off the fuel injector connectors while idling on cylinder 1 and 2 but those still had no effect on the rough idle.

So far, my buddy and I are stumped as of this moment as to what is wrong with my car, I apologize for the long story, but I’m trying to remember every detail out there so that it could be clear for those of you reading this, so what do you folks out there think the problem might be?

Thank you.
10w30 oil is indeed fine for summer time. Especially on a higher mileage motor. Double check your plug wires are in the correct distributor posts. Also i recommend using dielectric grease on those and your plug connections.
 

thePricewasWrong

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Update: My buddy installed a new ignition coil since the last one was missing the spring, but guess what, he also checked the firing order of the spark plug wires, it seems that the 1st and 2nd were mixed up for some darn reason... Once the problem was corrected the entire issue went away and the car is working fine once again...

Isn't that something.
 


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