Turbo D: Stock or Built? Money advice

[Astheros]

hey peeps.
so i am turboing my d series. just waiting on some parts to come in the mail and it should be boosted by mid april at the latest.
I will be running a
Garrett t28 turbo rebuilt with dual turbines
HF Manifold
2.5" charge piping
2.5" dp
31x12x3 SIS Black intercooler
WS2 catback
Blitz DD Bov
p28 ecu (ectune basemap right now but tuned on chrome since my tuner has no ectune license)
dsm blacktop injectors (dual spray),
walbro 255lhp,
phereable obd2b->obd1 harness
probably some Defi blue gauges since my interior is blue led lit.

it will be dyno tuned in Chicago by Mikey of ProFunction (formerly of Factory Five Motoring)

my question is the following however.
right now i have money to have it professionally installed and dyno tuned. I will be running only 8psi on the T28 so i have no worries about my motor blowing up. it had 190 compression across the board. timing belt kit done about 500miles ago. my dilemma is that I have some extra money available in the form of a credit card. enough to lets say do a full forged internals.

Should i just do it all the first time around. my plan was to build the d series eventually so should i just get it done all at once. i was thinking piston and rods since the head is pretty strong. not sure if i want the vitara setup or other like arias or je. i also have a stock clutch which prob wont last long so these are my options.

1. Garrett T28 8psi on stock D series block/head stock clutch (have money for this)
2. Garrett T28 8psi on stock D series block/head w. aftermarket clutch (would need about 300 more)
2. Garrett T28 ?psi on built D series block/stock head w. aftermarket clutch (would need about 1200 more)

or should i spend money instead in upgrading other parts like mani, throttle body, intake manifold

so stick with the planned stock d boosted. or accrue some debt and build it while i am at it?

 

[xxsenceo89x]

i would suggest arp headstuds and an aftermarket clutch with all of your choices.

i did 3 but if you did your going to need a bigger turbo and bigger injectors. it going to cost more then 1200. bearings, rods, pistons and rings, head studs, block gaurd (if you choose) bigger turbo, injectors, clutch and maybe exhaust. my guess is 1800 ish.

edit: you could probly use that turbo but i think your gunna max it out before yo max out the mtoro

 

[toneekay]

i would def. get an aftermarket clutch, and save the rest of your money until you have it in actual CASH or in your bank.. i wouldnt put myself into debt, you never know what else you might need to do or get, etc..

 

[Astheros]

i would suggest arp headstuds and an aftermarket clutch with all of your choices.

i did 3 but if you did your going to need a bigger turbo and bigger injectors. it going to cost more then 1200. bearings, rods, pistons and rings, head studs, block gaurd (if you choose) bigger turbo, injectors, clutch and maybe exhaust. my guess is 1800 ish.

edit: you could probly use that turbo but i think your gunna max it out before yo max out the mtoro

well i guess i should have been more clear. i am not looking for a fully built block but i guess a stronger block. i am also not looking to go beyond this turbo. i believe it maxes out at 325hp and i dont really need/want anything above 300hp. its a daily driven coupe and i want it to stay that way. with pistons and rods i should be safe running 250hp no?

 

[codyllee]

with rods and pistons you would be fine at 250hp (from what i read)... but i would HIGHLY suggest doing your build a little bit at a time...especially since you are just starting out in the boost world. There is no reason to rush into everything and throw yourself into debt on top of that.

I for example am a college student and am highly dependent upon my car for transportation, with that being said i also have a budget and so i plan on tackling my build in this fashion:

1. boost completely stock
2. replace clutch once it goes out (why not burn it up if your going to replace it anyhow?)
3. buy another block
4. build block
5. buy larger turbo, better manifold, dp, etc
6. assemble

This is just the way that I am doing my build...also while keeping a/c and p/s.

 

[Astheros]

with rods and pistons you would be fine at 250hp (from what i read)... but i would HIGHLY suggest doing your build a little bit at a time...especially since you are just starting out in the boost world. There is no reason to rush into everything and throw yourself into debt on top of that.

I for example am a college student and am highly dependent upon my car for transportation, with that being said i also have a budget and so i plan on tackling my build in this fashion:

1. boost completely stock
2. replace clutch once it goes out (why not burn it up if your going to replace it anyhow?)
3. buy another block
4. build block
5. buy larger turbo, better manifold, dp, etc
6. assemble

This is just the way that I am doing my build...also while keeping a/c and p/s.

i guess i was thinking in terms of if i do everything at once i get to save on labor (taking apart and putting back together) i am mechanically inclined but i no longer have the time or place to do such labor. i was thinking of getting coilovers and slamming for the summer but i cant even find time to install them

 

[xxsenceo89x]

with rods and pistons you would be fine at 250hp (from what i read)... but i would HIGHLY suggest doing your build a little bit at a time...especially since you are just starting out in the boost world. There is no reason to rush into everything and throw yourself into debt on top of that.

I for example am a college student and am highly dependent upon my car for transportation, with that being said i also have a budget and so i plan on tackling my build in this fashion:

1. boost completely stock
2. replace clutch once it goes out (why not burn it up if your going to replace it anyhow?)
3. buy another block
4. build block
5. buy larger turbo, better manifold, dp, etc
6. assemble

This is just the way that I am doing my build...also while keeping a/c and p/s.

this is the way i did it except i ddnt boost right away because i didnt wanna get retuned after the block was built. plus its allot of extra work.

im a broke college student 2. i would wait until you have lots of money.

 

[Astheros]

keep the epinions coming guys....ill call my tuner tomorrow and ask his advice on how i should proceed. i mean if i can go from 200->225 with some minor mods then ill do it. i think 225 will hold me for now. i am not looking for 12sec passes right now. i just got my first speeding ticket last week...flawless record down the toilet and now i am paranoid.

i also have to buy an alarm cause my car is now street parked. and since the speeding ticket i want an escort or valentine radar. guess i should hold off on the 300hp mark for a while hu?

 

[Almighty-Si]

Put the vitara's and rods in, get yourself a clutch and let the turbo rip.

 

[Sundown]

I know its kinda late, but imo, you shouldnt put yourself in debt buying car parts. That's just not a good idea financially. You should know like anyone else that builds run over budget, and so if you use credit to buy some of your parts, what happens when I break it open and find out you need something else? Not worth it, just boost what you have, and save

 

[Astheros]

I know its kinda late, but imo, you shouldnt put yourself in debt buying car parts. That's just not a good idea financially. You should know like anyone else that builds run over budget, and so if you use credit to buy some of your parts, what happens when I break it open and find out you need something else? Not worth it, just boost what you have, and save

yeah, imma be boosting the stock engine for now. only running 8psi...tuner said he should be able to get me around 210hp or so with the turbo and s**t that it will have.

i actually wont be putting it on till may or so now though so it can be a little easier on the pockets. the turbo parts alone were close to 1200 bucks. so tuning will run me another 350 bucks.

 

[97GreenEX]

Mmmm....
I may be following suit....

 

[slowhatch]

No matter what turbo you do, get ARP headstuds! Head lift sucks. If you haven't alreadys bought the charge pipes, get 2'' from turbo to intercooler and then 2 1/4 from intercooler to TB. My Suby buddies tell me smaller charge pipe to intercooler then larger from intercooler to TB helps the turbo lag and since you're running a small turbo 2.5'' is too big.

Don't ask me why or how that works, but it does make a difference somehow.