Turbo Help

[Mark7901]

Alright, Im almost ready to install my turbo. I have some questions and was wondering if anyone could help...

I have the whole turbo/intercooler unit.....I put in Iridium plugs and good wires. I will be getting stiffer valve springs, my question is about the fuel management..I see some people telling me to go two ways.

If I go Hondata s100, what else will I need?
If I go FMU, what else will I need?

Thanks for the help!!!
D16z6 engine

 

[Sound Streamin']

Get hondata s200 with boost. Then all you'll need is some larger injectors and you are set.

 

[Mark7901]

Not Hondata s100?

 

[Sound Streamin']

I dunno, s200 is just what I'd get. If you don't have any use for the options that come with the s200, then s100 with boost would be fine. Most people tend to run the s200 though,

 

[SeanMc300]

alot of people run the s200. tuner shops say that the s200 is better and easier to use. the s200 only costs about 20 bucks more than the s100, so dont worry bout price. ^^ correct, hondata and some larger injectors and youll be fine. if you go the fmu route (i wouldnt), youll need a high pressure inline booster and missing link. you can use the stock injectors.

get hondata, youll be happier.

where is mass are ya at?

 

[importlegions]

the s100 is just a chip u put in ur ecu, the s200 is like a lil box. the s200 is supposed to be easier to tune form wat ive heard.

 

[lanojp1]

ok to answer ur question, u have it lucky because your car is obd1, on my car i need a chipped p28 or other honda chip and the OBD1 conversion harness on my car with hondata. The s200 has more options add ons than the s100, but the s100 will work just as good. DONT get an FMU, not as tuneable as hondata or any other fuel management system. I will be running s200 with boost with my setup soon.

 

[Tommy Pickles]

Get Hondata s100 with boost or the s200b. With the FMU, if you want to run a higher boost usu. 7.5< psi, you'll need to get all sorts of other cool piggybacks. Figure: rising rate regulator, fuel controller, ignition timing controller. The price of these piggybacks can add up to as much as (or more) getting the "EMS" plus with the piggyback you won't have the fuel/timing resolution that the Hondata or most other stand-alones offer. Be sure to check out Zdyne as well, they also specialize in tuning Honda ECU's.

 

[Mark7901]

So if I get the s200, and some 550 injectors, will I need a bigger fuel pump? or a fuel rail?
I just got a ported intake with a 60 mm throttle body, that should help also....
Thanks all!

 

[needboost]

well, how much boost are you planning on running? 550cc injectors might be too large for your app. are you running a custom kit or manufactured kit? what size is the turbo? these are important facts that we need to know in order to give you a correct answer.

btw, do not, i repeat, DO NOT run an fmu if you wanna keep your motor for awhile.

 

[Mark7901]

FMU Point taken.
This will be a custom setup, daily driver, 10 psi set on an internal wastegate, its a TDO5H. I need to have it rebuilt first...

 

[needboost]

those 550's are prolly gonna run you a little rich. you could always go the poor man's easy route and get some 440 or 450s, either rc or dsm, and run the afc hack on them. that should run you just fine up to 10 lbs, but it's not very efficient much over that. the good thing is that you can tune it yourself in just a couple hours.

 

[Mark7901]

So the 440's should be fine? Whats the afc hack? Also I won't need a bigger fuel pump?

 

[baby99si]

With the hondata you need injectors like said but you also need a better in-tank fuel pump.

You guys act like useing an FMU is the end of the engine, what do you guys think they used before hondata and all the stand alones, up thats right FMU's with an FMU you would need injectors an in-line fuel pump or high pressuer in-tank fuel pump both will work. And it will be alot cheaper then the hondata and aem ems or uberdata.

But if you have the money deffinitly the hondata s200 with boost some 440's and a high flow fuel pump, and your set to get it tuned.

The afc hack is just anotehr way to tune your car, its not a very good way though.

 

[lanojp1]

The AFC hack is using a Apexi AF controller and bigger injectors, you trick your ECU into thinkin your still running stock injectors.

 

[Mark7901]

Thanks everyone! This is all great info. I hope to be up and running by this summer. I expect to have anywhere from 200hp to 215hp, not sure. Anyway this ZDYNE company, they can tune my ECU? Or should I take it to a local Honda speed shop?

 

[Tommy Pickles]

For 10 psi boost, you're prolly not gonna need a larger pump and the stock rail should be adequate. Some 440 DSM's with resistors shouldn't run you much more than $100 and they can operate pretty well at a very short pulsewidth (= better idle & emissions). I'm not sure if ZDyne will tune your ECU for you, but I'm pretty sure they can do that for you as well. Check them out at http://zdyne.com/

 

[SeanMc300]

at 10 psi you will need a higher flow pump, no new rail, but the dsm blue tops are needed...you could wire in resistors or use a resistor box from a 91 crx si.

 

[Mark7901]

Im confused, some say bigger pump for 10 psi, some say I dont need it....

!

 

[Sound Streamin']

It all depends how you plan on managing that 10psi. If you use the FMU(not recommended) then you need a higher pressure inline fuel pump. For the AFC hack, a lot of people get a higher flow pump. You have bigger injectors injecting more fuel, so it's nice to have a fuel pump that flows more. Walbro's are so cheap you should just get one anyway. They take like half an hour to install. If you decide to go the hondata route (I'd do Uberdata instead, way cheaper) then you definitly need to get a high flow pump.