i have a 2003 honda civic ex. now i am curious which do u think it better a turbo or a supercharger, i really dont' know i hear goods and bads on both, what do u guys think? one more thing i am lookin for a different set of wheels, and i am havin a hard time finding some, if u guys have any suggestions, type them up i would apprieate it. aight thanx
turbo or supercharger?
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FANATTIC8228
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why not save up and get a k-series engine in there. Type-S engine has way more potential than your EX turbo'd or S-charged, just myBLZKrAzYCiViC said:
Ace$nyper
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even better post this where it should go not the lounge
FANATTIC8228
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Ace$nyper said:
:I missed that...lol
hmmmm......i just found out that women love turbos last night. go with a turbo
moved for the n00b.
Okay, instead of beating the newb over the head with the search button, answer his question.
My personal preference is and has always been a turbocharger.
The main difference is that turbos are driven by exhaust gases, whereas, superchargers are belt driven.
The only reason I like turbos over superchargers is that the turbo is freewheelin', meaning that there are no contraptions that are required to spool the turbo other than the exhaust mani.
The supercharger's belt-driven design hinders the motor by the fact that it requires engine power to run the supercharger.
Unfortunately, turbos are not without flaw. Larger turbos suffer from turbo lag on smaller, less-powerful motors. Turbo lag occurs when you don't produce enough exhaust gas to spine the exhaust side of the turbine and continues until mid-to-high rpm.
Make a call and take your pick.
My personal preference is and has always been a turbocharger.
The main difference is that turbos are driven by exhaust gases, whereas, superchargers are belt driven.
The only reason I like turbos over superchargers is that the turbo is freewheelin', meaning that there are no contraptions that are required to spool the turbo other than the exhaust mani.
The supercharger's belt-driven design hinders the motor by the fact that it requires engine power to run the supercharger.
Unfortunately, turbos are not without flaw. Larger turbos suffer from turbo lag on smaller, less-powerful motors. Turbo lag occurs when you don't produce enough exhaust gas to spine the exhaust side of the turbine and continues until mid-to-high rpm.
Make a call and take your pick.
good advice given as always Lin
two thumbs up for the turbos! One thumb up for the super. One thing Lin didnt mention is that with a supercharger, there is no lag. You will have consistent power throughout the entire rpm band. But you dont have the option of controlling the amount of boost really.
just dont put a T5 on a d16 and ull be cool
redsidriver2
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do they even make a supercharger for 7th gen civics besides the si hatch
turbos are gonna do better for hondas, cuz they make good power in the high-rpm range (after they spool). that naturally accents the way honda engines work, they are made to rev high, all the way up to 9000rpms in the S2000's. most people with v8's and v6's choose to supercharge their engines, because those engines will never see rpms that high. most stock v8s will never see above 6000rpms, so they have to shift by the time the turbo has spooled (we're talking a big turbo here). the power seen from a supercharger is a lot quicker than a turbo, since it is belt-driven instead of air-driven. for a honda, though, you will see a lot more power with a turbo since it is accenuating (spelling?) the existing high-end power honda engineers by employing technology like vtec.
also if you do your research and have a little know-how you can piece together a good turbo system for as little as $650-700, while rarely will you find a supercharger for under $2500.
anyways thats just my understanding of the subject, i don't have a degree or anything but i've done a little research and a little getting my hands dirty. anybody with a higher understanding than mine feel free to correct me, i'd appreciate your enlightening me too.
also if you do your research and have a little know-how you can piece together a good turbo system for as little as $650-700, while rarely will you find a supercharger for under $2500.
anyways thats just my understanding of the subject, i don't have a degree or anything but i've done a little research and a little getting my hands dirty. anybody with a higher understanding than mine feel free to correct me, i'd appreciate your enlightening me too.
how could i piece together one for that cheap, and let me know it will be safe for my motor. i found a t25 wit everythin i need for 2900$. you tell me how i can get one for 700 bucks bro?
not to be a smart-ass, but i consider the stuff coming out your exhaust manifold/header to be air. okay, maybe its technically N2, CO2, H2O, NOx, carbon monoxide, and hydrocarbons, but its a lot easier for me to just call it air. and i second that site to anyone who wants to learn about how this stuff works. howstuffworks.com has tons of excellent write-ups on how automotive technologies function.
BlzKrazy, here's a list of where and how to set up a $700 turbo kit. don't buy a kit. do the research and fabrication yourself. although you gotta be careful what you buy and it probably wont be as easy or reliable as just buying a kit.
(all prices are approximations, they'll run you +/- a little)
T-3, 14b, or T25 turbo - $100 from a junkyard
Tial wastegate- $150 ebay
exhaust manifold- HF (VX or CX) manifold modified to fit turbo (see http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/HF_manifold/index.html) $30 or so
fmic- $200, ebay
bov- $100, ebay
fuel management- FMU- $80, ebay
intercooler piping- $50, local muffler shop
boost gauge- $25 ebay
anyway thats the most of it, i can't think of anything else off the top of my head im sure im forgetting something, but all that comes out to $735.
BlzKrazy, here's a list of where and how to set up a $700 turbo kit. don't buy a kit. do the research and fabrication yourself. although you gotta be careful what you buy and it probably wont be as easy or reliable as just buying a kit.
(all prices are approximations, they'll run you +/- a little)
T-3, 14b, or T25 turbo - $100 from a junkyard
Tial wastegate- $150 ebay
exhaust manifold- HF (VX or CX) manifold modified to fit turbo (see http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/HF_manifold/index.html) $30 or so
fmic- $200, ebay
bov- $100, ebay
fuel management- FMU- $80, ebay
intercooler piping- $50, local muffler shop
boost gauge- $25 ebay
anyway thats the most of it, i can't think of anything else off the top of my head im sure im forgetting something, but all that comes out to $735.