K...starting the build up for the spring turbo install on my 99 civic sohc. I have several parts from a 89 turbo probe gt. They didn't cost me anything so I would like to use them. I have the IHI turbo and intercooler off of the turbo probe gt. I have a VAFC2 already in the car. I am looking for the HF manifold. I know I need to buy new injectors and a better fuel pump. Where do I tap into to get coolant and oil to the turbo. I know that the return for the oil is attached to the oil pan, but where should the feed and return be for the coolant? Should I tap it by the IACV? What about engine management...do I go with the VAFC2 and just tune down bigger injectors or get something differant. I know that OBD2 causes problems when it comes to engine management but is it really better to switch to OBD1? I have already started to get the MSD ignition parts. I am just trying to figure out what to buy now so I can slowly build the funds and buy as I go. My other issue is living in Iowa I don't know where the hell I am gonna get this tuned at. I am MECP certified so I know my way around car electricaly and I have done all the maintanance on my civic so other than blowing my motor I am not worried. Thanks for the help I know I will have many more questions as these get answerd. I just need to know what to start saving and buying.
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you dont use coolant on turbos, its the oil that cools the turbo. which is why you dont kill your engine until two minutes after you park. there is a plug on the back of your block that you tap into. thats where your oil feed line goes. converting to obd1 and running a chipped ecu is much better than running a hack. MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER. if your going to run a chipped ecu, then find the pgmfi forum. i think its www.pgmfi.org or something like that. find a basemap on there that fits your setup best, and burn the basemap onto a chipped ecu. that will be a conservative tune that shouldnt blow your motor up. from there just lean the maps out. you should have access to a wideband o2 sensor, otherwise i wouldnt try to tune. also youre going to need a laptop so you can have datalogging. if you dont have access or dont want to risk your motor i suggest you dl and burn the basemap and take it to a dyno. there are people online that will sell you a chipped ecu and burn whatever basemap you request so long as you give it to them. gl hope that helps
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I just finished my turbo build on my 99 civic EX..
maybe a list of my setup will help you out, but ultimately its however you want to go about it, its your car after all..
GT28R Turbo .60 trim
Johnny RaceCar FMIC 5"
460 rx7 injectors
p28 chipped ecu running Uberdata w/ datalogging cable
OBD2b-OBD1 Conversion Harness
OBD1 injector clips
resistor pack
Nology hotwires
ngk plugs (2 steps colder)
greddy rs BOV
Greddy Manifold
Custom 2.5" downpipe w/ test pipe to Meagen Racing Cat-Back
Boost, EGT, Oil Pressure Gauges
Dual Gauge Pod & Gauge Bezel Cluster
LC-1 Wideband 02 Sensor
JFO Wideband Air/Fuel Gauge
Greddy Turbo Timer
Misc Vaccum Lines and Fittings
Charge Piping via www.jcwhitney.com
Couplers & Clamps
Tuner Toys Oil Line Kit
Uh and then some info to answer some of your questions.. I tapped the coolant line coming from the intake manifold, near the throttle body, i simply cut the line and ran from the manifold to the turbo and the turbo to the block. As far as oil lines, I got a fitting that goes into the back of block, where the oil pressure sender is. You tap that and run a braided line to teh turbo and you already know about the return line. IMHO it is really better to switch to OBD1..its not that difficult and makes everything alot easier. Its basically plug and play. Get a wideband O2 sensor and a datalogging program and tune that b***h yourself..hahah its really not that difficult and you learn alot..
maybe a list of my setup will help you out, but ultimately its however you want to go about it, its your car after all..
GT28R Turbo .60 trim
Johnny RaceCar FMIC 5"
460 rx7 injectors
p28 chipped ecu running Uberdata w/ datalogging cable
OBD2b-OBD1 Conversion Harness
OBD1 injector clips
resistor pack
Nology hotwires
ngk plugs (2 steps colder)
greddy rs BOV
Greddy Manifold
Custom 2.5" downpipe w/ test pipe to Meagen Racing Cat-Back
Boost, EGT, Oil Pressure Gauges
Dual Gauge Pod & Gauge Bezel Cluster
LC-1 Wideband 02 Sensor
JFO Wideband Air/Fuel Gauge
Greddy Turbo Timer
Misc Vaccum Lines and Fittings
Charge Piping via www.jcwhitney.com
Couplers & Clamps
Tuner Toys Oil Line Kit
Uh and then some info to answer some of your questions.. I tapped the coolant line coming from the intake manifold, near the throttle body, i simply cut the line and ran from the manifold to the turbo and the turbo to the block. As far as oil lines, I got a fitting that goes into the back of block, where the oil pressure sender is. You tap that and run a braided line to teh turbo and you already know about the return line. IMHO it is really better to switch to OBD1..its not that difficult and makes everything alot easier. Its basically plug and play. Get a wideband O2 sensor and a datalogging program and tune that b***h yourself..hahah its really not that difficult and you learn alot..
Yeah on select turbos..mine is oil and water cooled, if you look... on homemadeturbo, theres a project where they did a 2000 civic EX, and they also had a water and oil cooled turbo. It was a t-25.Shiznit said:
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_projects/civic_ex/
Thanks guys. So like a Hondatat s200 alows me to tune the car with a lap top? Tuneing it myself will be the best way. I don't have access to tuning shop around here.....probably have to go to Kansas City for the closest one. K...why exactly is it better to go with OBD1 conversion? What is the huge headache with OBD2?
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youll have to purchase the program if you want to tune hondata yourself. its very expensive. if you want to tune yourself i suggest uberdata. the uberdata prog is free. its very difficult to chip an obd2 ecu, which is why everyone goes to obd1loccusst said:
For the best tuning solution, my recommendation would be to do as Shiznit said and get an OBD1 ecu, as I did in my setup. Hondata is very expensive, when you can get a tuning solution for much much cheaper that is 10X more solid in the end. As far as OBD1 ecus go, perhaps the easiest to work with is the p28, because it already has vtec incorporated, as the p06 does not. Anyways, so you grab yourself an OBD1 ecu and get it chipped to be able to run programs like uberdata. There are many places that can do this. PM for a reference. Then a conversion harness, and literally PLUG the OBD1 ECU into your car, bravo. Running uberdata is not the only thing needed for a COMPLETE tuning system. As for me I got a wideband o2 sensor and a/f gauge, egt, boost and oil pressure. Some say its a lil overboard, but I find it the best setup ever. You read your settings through the wideband o2 and the a/f gauge and then edit them through uberdata. Simply flawless and < hondata. If you find the right places..like 90 bucks for a chipped ecu and datalogging cable 
well damn the link doesn't work for me
Yeah I know I need the wideband O2 sensor, I already have the A/F gauge installed. Got a spot right next to it for a boost gauge. So do you have to program the ecu before you plug it into the car? Or do you chip it plug it in to the car and then program it? Uberdata sounds like the way to go. Thanks. I have cheap laptop already. Will that program run on the mini mac or is it only IBM? The mini mac is small enough to fit in the car and I have a flip out in dash monitor. Would be sweet to display it on the monitor.....tune on the go.
First, if your looking for a boost gauge, I have one for sale, so PM me if your interested. As far as the other part, the ecu (assuming it a virgin) needs to be chipped in order to run uberdata with misc. parts that can be found @ radioshack for cheap (though soldering skills are required). Then you get a basemap, which basically is a setting that just allows your car to run (you basically input your settings eg. turbo, injector size etc onto a ROM, which Uberdata then reads). A basemap is NOT TUNING though, you still need to tune your car afterwards. Then you get a datalogging cable which plugs into the ecu & then into your laptop. As far as compatibility with various machines, im unsure. Check the uberdata website. Uberdata is not real time tuning and you cannot tune merely from uberdata (tune WELL at least). The wideband is recommend so you accurate read your settings and then adjust them via uberdata. <-- That sentence is the key. Good luck with your build. I just finished what i just talked about with you on my own setup merely weeks ago..loccusst said: