will i need a tune after this work?

ej8mike

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Im putting in a intake mani gsr throttle body and p28. If the p28 is already tuned do i have to get the car tuned because of the changing of manifolds?
 

2NRSTV

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It would be best if it was tuned to optimize gains.
 


ej8mike

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lol damn do you just quick reply to all threads? haha i like it though! quick way to get responses. you mean the tune for the chip? or get it tuned after all the work is done.
 

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Lol. Yeah, I click the "New Posts" Link at the top of the page every couple of minutes.

Get it tuned after all the work is done. If it is already tuned, you will have to tune it anyway for it to "fit" with your engine, so just tune it after everything is installed.
 


ej8mike

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Yeah that's what i was thinking. I'll have to shop around to get it tuned. It's pretty expensive a lot of places i looked at so far
 

2NRSTV

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Yeah, it's pretty expensive. It's gonna be a pretty penny since I'm pretty sure what you're using is a Chipped P28 with a 28Pin E-PROM chip, right?

If you are running with a modded EPROM chip, make sure you get a 28pin ZIF socket installed. I have one so that I can have 2 separate chips: one for street, and one (not so legal) for track days, and I just change it depending on what I want to use.
You also might want to mod the ECU for datalogging capability.
 

civicmand16y7

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it depens on what motor you have and car. i know its a 97. is an ex si dx what? i need to know and i can tell you what ecu car needs . but the p28 dose come in som d seirse motors. couse mine does will itsa mini me swap so just let me know what type of motor and car you and ill let you asap
 

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p28 is an odb1 ecu, you have an obd2 engine. You don't have a p28 unless you changed it yourself.
 

civicmand16y7

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this guy is right.. you have a obd1 p2e which a non vtec ecu. you have d16y8 which a vtec motor. and the p2e will not turn on the vtec. unless you have swaped the ecu to the p28. if you havent and you do want the p28 you can buy one at www.pherable.com. you would also would need a obd2 to obd1 harness which you can get from the same place. to find out which ecu you have. on the passger side in the floor borad. remove the kick panle and it should be right there. it has it on what kind of ecu it is. if you already have swaped it to the p28 which i dont think you have. (i may be wrong) thats how i read it. but order to tune the car you would need some kind of chipped ecu. thats pretty much the ino you need unless some one can come behind me and add so thing or tell im wrong. but i dont think im wrong (im not sure) if you need anything else dont be shy just ask

thats what i was tould when i done my mini me swap
 

ej8mike

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well bud you sound pretty right. hit that right on the head haha. I might just say eff that chip sell it somehow and just put in the intake mani and throttle body. Atleast ill make more power than i am now lol.
 

civicmand16y7

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let me make sure im reading it right....you do not have a p28 right. ok if you dont you can buy one chipped and the harness for just 250 buck now if im reading it right you have the p2e right im just making sure i was giving you the right info
 

ej8mike

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well everything in my engine is odb2? so idk how my ecu would be odb1. I bought it swapped already from a buddy of mine. He said the ecu was upgraded with the swap he already is running vtec so it cant be the p2e right?
 

civicmand16y7

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now the p2e could be bulit to a p28. that can be done...by what you have said it sound like to me that you do have a chipped ecu its the obd2 p2e that has been bulit to the p28....if you are still confused about it google search ecu chipping in you local town or city and ask them if they would take a look at your ecu to see if has been chipped/built. if you do find sombody close to you ask them if you can drive out there so they can check it out. they shouldnt charge you anything to check it out for(cant promise they wont) it worth the try....or you mit can find a dyno place to see. if i was you thats what i would do. just have it checkd by someone that chipps ecu...lol sorry if you are confuesd. the p2e can be bulit to the p28 and vtec control can be built into the p2e like it was a p28. it can be so cofuseing tell you do some reserch about it... i read i know at lest for 2 day and i still dont know a hole buch about chipped ecu...lol
 

ej8mike

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Haha yeah sounds pretty confusing but yeah I'll give my buddy a call and see what he can do. I might just say eff that chip and just do the intake mani and throttle body. Maybe get a little power lol Would it really make a difference if i did the intake and t.b and didnt get it tuned after?
 

civicmand16y7

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to get the full hp out of the intake and t.b i would get it tuned...but i as tould you really dont need to get it tuned unless you are spraying boosting or have a high compression motor... if had the money i would bought a chipped p28 so i could have mine tuen. i just have a stock ecu. but i would like to have a chipped ecu. i think if i did have and got it tuned i would run in the mid 16s. but thats another time and thread..lol to really answer the quistion i would call a dyno and ask them... i say if you have the money for a dyno go for it. but if you dont i would call frist where you wont wast lik 600 pluse dollores on something that didnt work. know what i mean. but good luck and pleaase let us know what you find out. if you do get on the dyno please show the dyno slips and one more thing have anyother question just ask and good luck
 

ej8mike

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Thanks for all the info. Yeah I'll call later today and get details from the shop and post up in the thread.
 

ej8mike

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Just got off the phone with the tuning shop. He said After i switch the intake and t.b I dont necessarily have to get it tuned but to get all the power out of it then i can get it tuned. But it's alot of money cause i have to get the jumper harness upgrade the ecu and a few other small things. So if i just do this and let it go it might just run a little lean, might not so I'm going to do the work and go from there
 


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