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i agree with everyone else. spraying on stock internals is if anything more prone to failure than boosting on stock internals. if your going to rebuild, might as well build the motor with some nice low comp pistons and good rods, and keep the turbo kit you have. this time though get a good dyno tune instead of a street tune. i guarantee this would not have happened if it was on a good dyno tune instead of that street tune. Even if it was a good street tune a dyno tune will always be better.
Yea something terribly wrong went on there and it quite frankly probably was the tune. Really hard to adjust timing on the street.
Honestly though, your halfways there already to building your bottom end. I mean, you broke 3 pistons, 3 sets of rings and you're going to have to hone the block. Few hundred more, you get forged rods and pistons then get it dyno tuned, you'll be more than fine.
I'm pushing my somewhat of a GReddy kit up to 15psi on my B16's stock internals, well, that is soon as my MAP sensor and Boost Solenoid arrive.
Good Luck with whatever you decide but I say don't give up on boost just yet !
Honestly though, your halfways there already to building your bottom end. I mean, you broke 3 pistons, 3 sets of rings and you're going to have to hone the block. Few hundred more, you get forged rods and pistons then get it dyno tuned, you'll be more than fine.
I'm pushing my somewhat of a GReddy kit up to 15psi on my B16's stock internals, well, that is soon as my MAP sensor and Boost Solenoid arrive.
Good Luck with whatever you decide but I say don't give up on boost just yet !
It was street tune by my friend that works in JT motorsports here in SD. Don't really know what to do now. I know some of you guys have been running turbo for years and no problems. I know it comes down to a good tune, but maybe it was too much for my engine(running 10psi) and didn't had a compression test before, idk. I know that in ebay I can find a good deal on some forged parts, but I'm not in the best position to be spending $800-$1000 on parts for a rebuild. I was leaning more into throwing some new/used oem si or itr parts in there and at the most spend around $400 and maybe for know, just to have fun, spray. One friend has this frogger(mispell) nitrous kit for sell, he wants $150 so...............................don't know what to do.
if you dont have money get ls pistons with a low compression head gasket and make sure you get new piston rings to be on the safe side( if you buy them used). how many miles did you have on the motor? get it dyno tuned by a tuner that has a good rep and you should be fine. and it would be a good idea to get a upgraded radiator because heat is one of the reasons why engines go bad.
if you want to make more power with the 18g make it external waste gated.
you will have a 9.xx compression ratio and it is cheap.
since the motor is out of the car it would be a good idea to get some cams that are better than b16 cams. since you said you dont have much money to spend just get gsr or itr cams.
neg, it will be almost 10:1 comp with that b16 head. still lower than stock but i say do it right and get some good low comp pistons.if yo dont have money get ls pistons with a low compression head gasket and make sure you get new piston rings to be on the safe side. how many miles did you have on the motor? get it dyno tuned by a tuner that has a good rep and you should be fine.
you will have a 9.xx compression ratio and it is cheap.
a stock ls has a compression ratio of 9.2:1.neg, it will be almost 10:1 comp with that b16 head. still lower than stock but i say do it right and get some good low comp pistons.
it should be in the high 9.x: x with a b16 head. i find it hard to believe a b16 head will rais the compression ratio by almost a full point.
bottle feed that civic!!!!LOL
Screw spraying. Just build the internals. Now is the perfect chance.
agreeeeeed.
sounds like a crappy tune job...
and find another mechanic.sounds like a crappy tune job...
10psi is way too much for a stock b16
10psi on a B16 with the GReddy kit is roughly 260-270whp with good dyno tuning and exhaust upgrades. That's not too much for the motor.
He was street tuned so I'm sure there wasn't much of, if any, timing adjustments to which I would say he wasn't making that kind of power. Probably why it also turned the pistons to liquid.
He was street tuned so I'm sure there wasn't much of, if any, timing adjustments to which I would say he wasn't making that kind of power. Probably why it also turned the pistons to liquid.
Comp Calc Says Stock B16 Comp = 10.28neg, it will be almost 10:1 comp with that b16 head. still lower than stock but i say do it right and get some good low comp pistons.
B16 with PR4 (LS Pistons) = 8.64
Last night I saw the pistons that went bad. s**t, couldn't take any pic, but the 3 rings broke, there were lots of little pieces that were coming off, looked weird and the pistons were crack................
I'll stick with the mechanic that I'm with right now, he has done some amazing jobs here in SD and he's very well known. If I do try one more time with the turbo I defently will go to get it dyno tune this time. If not, probably sell the turbo kit and be stock for awhile. Maybe spray, don't know. My mechanic hooked me up with some brand new oem b16 pistons, rings and all for $60. Don't know guys, I'm still 50/50 on what to do next.
So, we'll see what happens.
I'll stick with the mechanic that I'm with right now, he has done some amazing jobs here in SD and he's very well known. If I do try one more time with the turbo I defently will go to get it dyno tune this time. If not, probably sell the turbo kit and be stock for awhile. Maybe spray, don't know. My mechanic hooked me up with some brand new oem b16 pistons, rings and all for $60. Don't know guys, I'm still 50/50 on what to do next.
So, we'll see what happens.
turn the boost down until you upgrade the internals.
10psi on a B16 with the GReddy kit is roughly 260-270whp with good dyno tuning and exhaust upgrades.
Proof?