16G on a D17

Wildfire

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Hi guys. I happen to have a EVOIII 16G Turbo thats ported and clipped. I was wondering if it would work on my 2003 civic ex coupe 5-spd w/d17 vtech. If it would where could I find a manifold for the d17 that has a mitsu flange on it??

If anyone knows please post away. Thanks in adavnced for any info.
 

guwakjai010

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maybe thats all he has... who knows... i've been in Green 91's or his bro's d17 turbo and its pretty fast
 

Wildfire

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Well since I already have that turbo and that engine in my car, I figured it would be a cheaper way to just drop the turbo in, then doing...lets say a k20 swap
 


guwakjai010

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if u can't ifnd it.... get someone to fabricate one for u and then fabricate a DP
 

Drackonn

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buy a manifold that you like, and get some one to fabricate an adapter plate that bolts to the 16g and then has different bolt holes for the manifold ... a lot cheaper than getting a manifold fabbed up ...
 

Wildfire

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How much do you guys think it would cost to have an adapter made for the manifold and a DP? Would it be worth the time, money, and hassle? Or, should I just save up for a K20z1 to drop in?
 

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How much do you guys think it would cost to have an adapter made for the manifold and a DP? Would it be worth the time, money, and hassle? Or, should I just save up for a K20z1 to drop in?
thats 2 totally different paths ... the DP and adapter plate Im sure will be cheaper than a k20 swap ... but you will make the same amount of power with the k20 stock as the d17 will on boost ... so more room for advancement with the k20, it depends on what your final goals are.
 

Wildfire

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Want I want is a fully built k20. I want to see what kind of power I could get out of it. The turbo that i have is off my 91 Talon. It was a fully built engine that dynoed @ 378hp and ran mid to high 10s. How I miss it. I know what kind of power the 4G63 can take and handle. I know I could prolly max out the D17, yea it would be a lil quicker, but nothing comparable to the 4G63 I had.

But It would be cheaper in the long run to just turbo the D17. But, since I've been spoiled before with an awesome engine. should I wait and find a trashed rsx-s in the junkyard and take what I need off of it?

I just dont know if I would be satasfied with the d17 boostin, if it would have enough hp and torque to keep me happy....
 

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How much horsepower are you looking for long term? That will really determine what the best route is. The d17 hasn't been maxed out yet, but there are quite a few people running 300+. If you want more than that, a k is probably the best way to go. If you are going to build one, you might want to look at a frank while you have it torn apart. Although a turbo is a load of fun. I don't care what anyone says, hearing a turbo spool up is freaking cool.
 

Drackonn

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your going from a 4G63 to a d17? save up and K-swap ... i dont think you will ever be happy after owning something with a 4G63 in it.

dont get me wrong I love hondas ... but the 4g63 is ftw
 

newb

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Just to give you an idea, my shop charges $65 an hour for manual machine work. Something like that adapter should take no more than an hour. Since the time is so little your lookin at a flat shop rate just to do the job, shop rates vary. Lets say you find a shop with a $100 flat rate and a rate of $60 an hour. Your adapter will wind up costing around $175 with the material charge in there too. Welding works the same way. Off the top of my head I dont know my shops welding rate, but a good rate would be like $75 an hour. For a down pipe lets say itll take em an hour and half (inluding set up, cutting, and welding). If you have the same shop make this as your adapter then your gunna get that same flat rate. Now your down pipe is gunna be around $250 with material. Heres the beauty of the deal tho, have it all done at once and you only pay the flat rate once. So, instead of paying $425, your lookin at $325 for both. Thats far better than a K20 swap, but on the other hand a K20 swap will have way more potential.
 

oddeb707

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aren't the d17s a b***h to tune and very costly?
 

baron340

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^^ depends a lot on what you're using to tune. from what i hear k-pro is pretty easy to tune without a lot of problems, assuming your tuner has any clue as to whats going on. ems is the same way just a little more pain in the ass because of the software. a piggy-back is going to be tricky on any obd2 car. my tuner didn't seem to have any problems with aem f/ic. a few hiccups with street tuning for fuel trims and partial throttle is a little off, but it is a piggy-back. my tune ended up costing me $200. not bad for dyno time and starting with no base map.
 


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