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[Docta2002]

Damn, I'm all about finding info about a turbo set up for my y8 and turbod16.com doesn't let me sign up. I guess they've been watching my horrible posts on this site..... I know someone else tried to help me, but i need more help. Can anyone tell me their full set up so i can have an idea of what i need? I want the brand of the products and the model of the particular items. I decided NOT to buy the Edelbrock kit and go custom. What should I save up for and buy 1st?

 

[2slo4u]

search up on homemadeturbo.com you dont need to sign up or anything there, they have a tech section
but basically

manifold
turbo
wastegate(internal or external)
fuel injectors(resistor box if peak/hold)
fuel pump(not needed but real good to have)
downpipe/ dumptube
intercooler/piping
bov
tuning
tuning
tuning
tuning

 

[Destroy]

Totally forgot about that forum, prob haven't logged on in years.

 

[sohclubkid]

Damn, I'm all about finding info about a turbo set up for my y8 and turbod16.com doesn't let me sign up. I guess they've been watching my horrible posts on this site..... I know someone else tried to help me, but i need more help. Can anyone tell me their full set up so i can have an idea of what i need? I want the brand of the products and the model of the particular items. I decided NOT to buy the Edelbrock kit and go custom. What should I save up for and buy 1st?

well, when you want to do a custom kit, it all depends on what kind of power you want to make.

figure out a horsepower goal and get the parts that will meet your needs.

 

[DarkCreep]

Anyone know how to register and ClubSi.com?

 

[greenlx777]

HMT.com 4 life

 

[Docta2002]

My goal is to double my hp, we're talking about 200hp. ahahhahaha. I'm serious, all I want is for my daily driven car to remain reliable and have some more power. 170-200hp and i'll be happy.

About the manifold; there are 'log manifold', 'ram-someshit', etc... what type is a good one for my application? I still wanna keep my a/c, the power steering can f**k itself.

Turbocharger; there are sooo many out there. Some really cheap (ebay) and others "WTF-expensive". The Edelbrock kit and the Greddy kit I was looking at come with Garrett GT28R ball bearing and a TDO4H-19T, respectively. Should I buy one of those same turbochargers or do you guys have something better in mind for me?

Internal/External wastegate; I dont know what this is but doens't it depend on something else like the manifold or something?

Fuel Injectors; what size for my application? There are a buncha sizes out there. What brand in particular should i trust?

Fuel Pump; same as above. What's a good brand/model for me to have?

As for the downtube, should i get a 3" or a 2.5" all the way back?

BOV; what type model/brand should i go with?

Turbo Timer/Boost Controller; what brand/model. As for the boost controller; I will not keep f**kin with the setup once everything is done, should i get a manual or an electronic boost controller. Oh, btw, is a boost controller that thing that keeps ur car on after you leave?

And finally, for the tunning, I believe i need one of those EMS things. One of my boys told me to go with a Hondata S300. But then there is that AEM EMS Plug-n-Play s**t which costs an eye.... Whats something really good for me. I mean, once everything is done, I am NOT gonna keep f**kin with the computer and bringging my laptop in my car and all....

 

[stealthy]

My goal is to double my hp, we're talking about 200hp. ahahhahaha. I'm serious, all I want is for my daily driven car to remain reliable and have some more power. 170-200hp and i'll be happy.

About the manifold; there are 'log manifold', 'ram-someshit', etc... what type is a good one for my application? I still wanna keep my a/c, the power steering can f**k itself.

Turbocharger; there are sooo many out there. Some really cheap (ebay) and others "WTF-expensive". The Edelbrock kit and the Greddy kit I was looking at come with Garrett GT28R ball bearing and a TDO4H-19T, respectively. Should I buy one of those same turbochargers or do you guys have something better in mind for me?

Internal/External wastegate; I dont know what this is but doens't it depend on something else like the manifold or something?

Fuel Injectors; what size for my application? There are a buncha sizes out there. What brand in particular should i trust?

Fuel Pump; same as above. What's a good brand/model for me to have?

As for the downtube, should i get a 3" or a 2.5" all the way back?

BOV; what type model/brand should i go with?

Turbo Timer/Boost Controller; what brand/model. As for the boost controller; I will not keep f**kin with the setup once everything is done, should i get a manual or an electronic boost controller. Oh, btw, is a boost controller that thing that keeps ur car on after you leave?

And finally, for the tunning, I believe i need one of those EMS things. One of my boys told me to go with a Hondata S300. But then there is that AEM EMS Plug-n-Play s**t which costs an eye.... Whats something really good for me. I mean, once everything is done, I am NOT gonna keep f**kin with the computer and bringging my laptop in my car and all....

look around at other peoples setups, personally im not going to make you out a parts list. you need to research and learn more so you know what you are getting yourself into and what YOU need. there are a s**t load of turbo d's out there that you can compare to your goals and find out what works and what doesnt.

 

[Billy.]

log manifold is fine for your application. typically you can keep your a/c condenser in place. ram-horn style uses a lot more space and usually the condenser has no room to fit

a standard garrett turbine is all you need. no ball bearing GT stuff necessary (but stay away from ebay too unless its a legit ebay store)

use an external wastegate. internal can be a pain in the ass depending on what turbo youre using

your stock fuel injectors might be fine for 200whp, but there's no harm in upgrading now. you dont want to find out on the dyno that your injectors are leaning out at 7k rpms. something around 300-400cc is plenty. i recommend RC (im using RC 650cc happily)

fuel pump is NOT necessary. im over 300hp with stock fuel pump and still have a cool rich tune under boost

2.5" downpipe is sufficient, but no harm in 3" except for the added cost

any good name brand BOV is fine. i like Tial personally

if youre not planning on playing with the tune after its all done then you dont need to spend money on a boost controller. just use the wastegate spring. a simple setup is a safe setup. a turbo timer is probably not necessary either, just remember to idle your car for a minute or so after spirited driving

as far as ECU's go, you can chip and tune your stock ecu or get a complete stand-alone unit. i recommend just chipping your stock ecu and using whichever tune software that your local tuner is comfortable programming. ask him for his preferance. a stand-alone unit is going to be costly, but you do get what you pay for. im using Apexi's PowerFC unit, which isnt very common for boosted hondas but it got the job done. the PowerFC also has an optional handheld tuner/display device called the Commander which is great for on-the-fly adjusting and for displaying engine parameters. again, ask your local tuner what he prefers

 

[Docta2002]

Stealthy, hehhehehe so you're helping me by telling me you're NOT helping me... ironic.. heehhehehe That's what im doing, 'looking aroud'. When you guys (the more experienced and knowledgable guys) post ur set up, you post something like this:

d16z6 block/IM
d16y7 head
Shorty Manifold
Tial 38mm @ 7psi
T3/t04e 57 trim, 3" open DP
Full boost by 3800rpm

Ok so in 6lines someone described their turbo setup, but for me... I dont know s**t. It's alot easier and quicker for me to buy a kit and bolt that s**t on, but everyone is telling me to go custom cause its better and cheaper,... so here I am.... How do I know if that particular guys uses his car everyday or not, or if he just takes it to the track.... w/e.

 

[stealthy]

200whp is every bit of a dd. with a good tune you will be fine. dsm 450s, 2.5" dp, a proper sized internal gated turbo, log mani and any brand name bov or dsm. stock fuel pump will be ok with that power, or you can upgrade to a walbro 255 and a fpr. just get a quality mbc since you wont be changing anything. turbo timer is what keeps the car running when you shut it off, i recommend one to help save your turbo. i have a greddy. for ecu do an obd1 conversion and use a p28 with chrome. this is all budget stuff, so of course you can always get more expensive stuff but this will work just fine. goodluck.

 

[Matt.]

I don't know about that not buying a boost gauge mugen... I mean, what happens if the boost is spiking? Its a good idea to know its happening.

 

[Billy.]

I don't know about that not buying a boost gauge mugen... I mean, what happens if the boost is spiking? Its a good idea to know its happening.

well if he doesnt go cheap on the wastegate and turbo he shouldnt have that problem. but i didnt even mean to say boost gauge, i meant he doesnt need a digital boost controller, just stick with the wastegate spring

a boost gauge is still a good idea that the OP never even asked

thanks for the catch

 

[Docta2002]

Alright! Now I got help!!! Thanks dudes... Now I just gotta save up and buy these things lil by lil. What should I buy 1st, the manifold or the turbo? I figure those are the 1st 2 things I should buy then everything there after should be compatible with those two components, right? Oh, as for the mani, does it make a difference between cast iron, or whatever other method there is for constructing them (i think it's by welding)?

 

[Billy.]

cast mani's are OK, not the greatest though. i think i have seen a log style mani that was actually tubular stainless, but it was probably a custom job = more money. sometimes the cast-log mani's can be prone to cracking from thermal stress. its probably a better idea to find a manifold that matches a particular turbo that will fit behind the a/c condenser as fact. then buy either one first as long as you stick with the plan. it really doesnt matter what order you buy parts after that cuz you cant install it til you've got everything anyways


nobody has mentioned the intercooler and piping yet, or the exhaust system.. dont forget about that stuff

 

[Billy.]

here's a good site to start looking:

http://www.customcarscentral.com/categories-all-makes-models-exhaust-exhaust-manifolds.html


btw, moved this to Forced Induction section

 

[Docta2002]

I didnt forget, it's just that those things 'come later'. Do you think its wise to buy a cheap 'piping kit' for my car and a name brand intercooler? Or do intercoolers already come with the tubes? Any size suggestions for my app? In regards to the mani and turbo, I guess if i buy something from a reputable company that offers lifetime warranty i can go wrong, right! Thank dude, you've been helpfull...... now let's talk some s**t....... lol

 

[Billy.]

intercoolers are usually measured by their HP rating, in addition to their dimensions. a 200hp setup does not require a large intercooler. you should be able to fit the intercooler inside the bumper with little or no modification to the bumper facia at all.

depending on what manifold/turbo setup you choose, finding an intercooler pipe kit could be hard to do. some manifolds position the turbo at a weird angle or on the wrong side all together. my IC pipe setup took a lot of guesswork and cutting to get right.

you can use either stainless or aluminum piping. aluminum will be lighter weight, and easy to get it in polished (which helps reduce heat sink)

this is where i got my piping and exhaust stuff
http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/

 

[Docta2002]

I read somewhere this guy bought a D15 or someshit-Y7 oil pan cause it's steel, or something harder than what I'm running now on my stock Y8, is it necessary or just something usefull for his app?

As for the piping, I'm not concerned. There are many shops around here that can do that. Have no idea how much thou.

If I go with a 2.5" or 3" downtube, this also mean that all the tubes all the way back to the muffler have to be 2.5" or 3" respectively, right?

And I read about external ignition/external coil-something by a brand called MSD... Do I need that s**t?

 

[2slo4u]

it'd be best to get a downpipe the same size or smaller than your exhaust..it just makes more sense that way..a 2.5 inch downpipe is plenty..a 2.5 inch exhaust would be good enough since your not wanting to make crazy hp..i know there is a guy i ordered intercooler piping for my cousin off of on ebay, it came with a flange welded on already too..i'll try to find it again and post it up

just make sure you dont cheap out, most times just when you think you got it all done and ready to install, something comes up and you gotta go out and buy more stuff...if you have friends who can help you on the install it'd be nice as well..i had my friends help me..but they only hold the light

you dont need msd, but you'll need new plugs which when you get tuned, they will also recommend and will probably have some at the shop to purchase