Kimbo vs fatass

Tam4511

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when you come into the sport SO late.... when you already have bad habits.... when you are used to cherry picked opponents.. when your cardio is a joke... you are going to have a really tough time making it happen in mma..
:word: so true, most of the pros have been doing mma their whole life so they have the rules and principles down, Kimbo just entered the mma, what last year? i mean u can expect him to be great, he has a good start though, strong as s**t, and if he looks at u , u s**t ur pants, he just needs to learn the technique, and skill to pull off successful combos and definitely needs to work on his ground.
 

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:word: so true, most of the pros have been doing mma their whole life so they have the rules and principles down, Kimbo just entered the mma, what last year? i mean u can expect him to be great, he has a good start though, strong as s**t, and if he looks at u , u s**t ur pants, he just needs to learn the technique, and skill to pull off successful combos and definitely needs to work on his ground.
even with all the know how in the world.. if he doesnt improve his cardio he will continue to fail.. thats why he lost that TUF fight... because once he was under that guy he just got super winded.. and gave up.. its lame to lose that way.. but its even more lame to LET yourself lose that way.. i have been in situations like that with bigger opponents... and im NOT comparing my skill to his is ANY way.. but i sure as f**k did not just lay there.. he looked TOTALLY drained almost immediately.. his effort to get out was minimal at best.. AND to top it off he allowed himself to get back in the same situation in round two.. kimbo is a great fighter.. in the realm of carnival freak strong man, against unskilled no bodies.. but that is IMO where he is maxed.. against anyone.. even someone smaller.. who is properly trained.. and he is pretty useless..
 


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even with all the know how in the world.. if he doesnt improve his cardio he will continue to fail.. thats why he lost that TUF fight... because once he was under that guy he just got super winded.. and gave up.. its lame to lose that way.. but its even more lame to LET yourself lose that way.. i have been in situations like that with bigger opponents... and im NOT comparing my skill to his is ANY way.. but i sure as f**k did not just lay there.. he looked TOTALLY drained almost immediately.. his effort to get out was minimal at best.. AND to top it off he allowed himself to get back in the same situation in round two.. kimbo is a great fighter.. in the realm of carnival freak strong man, against unskilled no bodies.. but that is IMO where he is maxed.. against anyone.. even someone smaller.. who is properly trained.. and he is pretty useless..
he can build cardio though, he has/had a bad ass rep, which IS hard to get. if he can start traing good and fighting better he can build on to it.
 

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he can build cardio though, he has/had a bad ass rep, which IS hard to get. if he can start traing good and fighting better he can build on to it.

i dont buy it.. 35 years old.. has HAD good training (trainer) and still gets gassed in the first half of the first round..

kimbo goes out.. looks for the knockout.. and when it doesnt happen fast enough he is in serious trouble.. i have yet to see ANY indication he improved in ANY way as an actual trained fighter... yeah hes big.. yeah he can throw hands for about 45 seconds... but this is why chuck lidell is no longer relevant.. the game is a lot more complicated than that.. and these guys dont grow and evolve.. they are left behind..

too old.. not enough growth.. useless.. imo..
 


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i dont buy it.. 35 years old.. has HAD good training (trainer) and still gets gassed in the first half of the first round..

kimbo goes out.. looks for the knockout.. and when it doesnt happen fast enough he is in serious trouble.. i have yet to see ANY indication he improved in ANY way as an actual trained fighter... yeah hes big.. yeah he can throw hands for about 45 seconds... but this is why chuck lidell is no longer relevant.. the game is a lot more complicated than that.. and these guys dont grow and evolve.. they are left behind..

too old.. not enough growth.. useless.. imo..
i understand what ur saying, and i agree he needs a major improvement, but not all hope is lost, he can pull through if he wants to, and dedicates himself to.
PS> hes fuked if he doesnt lol
 

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Lidell was such a good fighter because no one could take him down. Probably one of the beat takedown defenses ever. When he did get down he would gt back up. Unless he was fighting rampage, then he'd get ho'd.
I think If kimbo wants this thing bad enough, some camps will let him in to spar standup with their guys and he could get exposed to the 24/7 training mentality of real fighters. No more making movies and partying in Miami.
 

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I wish it was still good to kick or knee your opponent while he is down, WITH or without shoes. Headbutting should still be good as well.
 

NIKE H34D

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I root for kimbo, but OC Civic makes very valid points. But s**t, you gotta love that big ass dude haha
 

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I think Kimbo has better cardio then some. Guys like Frank Mir had Horrible Cardio and he has worked himself to get better Cardio. It can happen and now that KImbo is with ATT people might see a transformation in him. In MMA you never know. For some people 35 is old for other not as bad. We will have to wait and see. It's still a fact that Kimbo needs to work his ground more because his ground game is crazy weak. I think it's a disgrace to win a fight like Roy Nelson did though. That fight should be tagged winner Roy Nelson via Gimmick.
 

NIKE H34D

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Big Dude gonna rip someones head off bahahahahha

Gets someone in a guillotine and [[[POP]]] No more head :P
 

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if it's that big black motherfucker, he has no cardio at all. I'm dvr'n it right now!
 

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wtf it showed big dude but now it's just the rat vs some avg white guy...it showed big black guy square up at the beginning. Dana is working his bullshit again
 

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hahaha i just so rampage absolutely tear a door apart.. i was laughing pretty hard...
 

NIKE H34D

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LMAO rampage did beast the door pretty bad..... Rashad is an annoying guy haha, Rampage is a better fighter get over it Rashad.
 


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