HE won what?!?!

nicoyita1

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it hit hard here..
we lost a whole town pretty much..
and when over 50% of a towns population make 100k/yr or more, u see a big change when 85% of them get laid off..

restaurants closed immediately and so did stores.
walmart even looks like hell here..
it does go to show how money controls the population and if people arent spending it goes to s**t fast..

but u gotta make it to spend it and nobody is making it right now..
That's f**king insane. I imagine that's one of those places where the whole economy of that area is run off of the one certain field of work. So it makes sense to me. I live in NC, I guess it's safe to say that people who live on or near tobacco farms are hit likewise. (That's our major exporting crop) I live in the second banking capital of the US, Charlotte. I've seen how the economy gets hit hard when the banks fail just as I've seen how your particular field of work affects the economy of the whole country. It's f**king crazy, way above what most people would've ever imagined for a country whose streets are portrayed to be made of solid gold. No more streets of gold around here anymore. In fact, they've been destroyed a long time ago.
 

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I hear ya, and cash for clunkers was a huge f**king waste!!! I will not argue that.

But Bush is the one who f**ked us all by ignoring all the signs of this recession and doing nothing.......
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im not gonna disagree all i gotta say that the worlds a f**ked up place right now & it wont get betterfor a while. Only the strong survive.
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i could careless who gets the peace prize.....Other things more important than that.
 

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definition of nobel peace prize from wikipedia--
According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."[1] Alfred Nobel's will stated that the prize should be awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Norway and Sweden were at that time still in union, and with Sweden responsible for all foreign policy, Nobel felt that the prize might be less subject to political corruption if awarded by Norway. The Peace Prize is presented annually in Oslo, in the presence of the king, on December 10 (the anniversary of Nobel's death), and is the only Nobel Prize not presented in Stockholm. In Oslo, the Chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee presents the Nobel Peace Prize in the presence of the King of Norway. The Nobel Laureate then receives a diploma, a medal and a document confirming the prize amount.[2] The Nobel Peace Prize Ceremony is held at the Oslo City Hall, followed the next day by the Nobel Peace Prize Concert, which is broadcast to more than 450 million households in over 150 countries around the world. The concert has received worldwide fame and the participation of top celebrity hosts and performers.

its a f**king joke..
its kinda like the mtv awards for people who think theyre better than they are...

obama is like the kanye of politicians...
 


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thats not right.
 

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I'm not saying he doesn't deserve wealth but many doctors take advantage of the system that rewards them for doing so 2 f**king Learjets :shock: 100% unnecessary.

Icing on the cake he's trying to cut medical insurance for his employee's next year seriously WTF the system is flawed........


And that's BS about your taxes wow didn't know that........
its funny that you pick on a doctor.. who has two jets.. but not your average football, basketball, etc.. player who probably has a whole FLEET of jets.. society has truly gone to s**t when we bash health care professionals for being successful while we gleefully suck back a few cold ones cheering for some brain dead jack ass who happens to throw a ball well, all the while making in one game what we will hope to make in 5+ YEARS...

look health care is f**ked up.. but its an endless system.. and throwing more money at it is the wrong answer..

people were making a lot of money and times were good so lots more people started to pursue college..

more people started getting good jobs like health care..

schools decided f**k we can charge a LOT more since demand is so high...

so now it cost a ton more to be a doctor...

so then doctors charge more..

doctors charge more so drug companies say f**k.. if they are charging more.. we need to be to.. so they charge more...

equipment companies supplying hospitals then in turn do the same..

again just adding to the enormous disgusting pile of cost for health care..

that cost goes up.. insurance goes up... and in many cases becomes something unfordable..

the problem is all this works out fine.. providing the the distance between the dr. and roofer is not THAT far financially.. but unfortunately this gross increase in many area has not been compensated equally across the board.. so this is why you have union guys working on assembly lines thinking they should be making $30 an hour to screw on a bolt.. the WHOLE big issue has been caused by this enormous gap between lower and upper class.. completely dissolving the middle class.. if the growth of these industries was somewhat controlled along with the costs associated with them.. we would likely not be in such a serious situation now.. when a doctor wants to make 500k a year.. when a guy throwing a ball wants to make millions a year.. when a guy screwing on a nut thinks he deserves $30 an hour.. we have a problem.. because "normal" jobs just dont pay that.. and it makes everything unaffordable..
 

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and then u have the problem we have here...
not enough doctors in my area and the doctors here arent accepting new patients...

i have insurance, so i just pay a deductable, but it doesnt matter if u cant go to a f**king dr if something is wrong..

let em make the big bucks, i want someone thats good enough to pay the big bucks to so i know he/she knows whats wrong with me when i go in..
 

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basically wat the article says is that he won the nobel peace prize for doign his job+..shouldnt the other 44 presidents get the nobel peace prize also? so everyone should get the npp when they spend 800 billion
 

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its funny that you pick on a doctor.. who has two jets.. but not your average football, basketball, etc.. player who probably has a whole FLEET of jets.. society has truly gone to s**t when we bash health care professionals for being successful while we gleefully suck back a few cold ones cheering for some brain dead jack ass who happens to throw a ball well, all the while making in one game what we will hope to make in 5+ YEARS...

look health care is f**ked up.. but its an endless system.. and throwing more money at it is the wrong answer..

people were making a lot of money and times were good so lots more people started to pursue college..

more people started getting good jobs like health care..

schools decided f**k we can charge a LOT more since demand is so high...

so now it cost a ton more to be a doctor...

so then doctors charge more..

doctors charge more so drug companies say f**k.. if they are charging more.. we need to be to.. so they charge more...

equipment companies supplying hospitals then in turn do the same..

again just adding to the enormous disgusting pile of cost for health care..

that cost goes up.. insurance goes up... and in many cases becomes something unfordable..

the problem is all this works out fine.. providing the the distance between the dr. and roofer is not THAT far financially.. but unfortunately this gross increase in many area has not been compensated equally across the board.. so this is why you have union guys working on assembly lines thinking they should be making $30 an hour to screw on a bolt.. the WHOLE big issue has been caused by this enormous gap between lower and upper class.. completely dissolving the middle class.. if the growth of these industries was somewhat controlled along with the costs associated with them.. we would likely not be in such a serious situation now.. when a doctor wants to make 500k a year.. when a guy throwing a ball wants to make millions a year.. when a guy screwing on a nut thinks he deserves $30 an hour.. we have a problem.. because "normal" jobs just dont pay that.. and it makes everything unaffordable..
Entertainers are an exception and only make up a small small small fraction of our population. So yeah I picked on a Doctor who saves lives for a living lol but the hundreds of thousands of those Doctors. Med school is crazy expensive and they should be more than compensated for that but 2 leer jets! lol ok I'm done w/that.

But your reply was well put and I agree fully

So President OC how do you fix this?
 

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and then u have the problem we have here...
not enough doctors in my area and the doctors here arent accepting new patients...

i have insurance, so i just pay a deductable, but it doesnt matter if u cant go to a f**king dr if something is wrong..

let em make the big bucks, i want someone thats good enough to pay the big bucks to so i know he/she knows whats wrong with me when i go in..
its not that they shouldnt make the big bucks.. its when the big bucks and little bucks are disproportionately different.. ;)

it makes what the average american earns useless, and inadequate... which makes him forced more pay to catch up.. which forcing an increased cost to consumers.... which causes them to spend more money and so on... your union type jobs... and such dont really suffer because they just force more pay.. but the "little guy" the countless people working for small home town businesses suffer.. they can not compare in pay to large union type work.. so the small amounts that they can afford to pay become inadequate.. its kind of a messy situation..
 

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Entertainers are an exception and only make up a small small small fraction of our population. So yeah I picked on a Doctor who saves lives for a living lol but the hundreds of thousands of those Doctors. Med school is crazy expensive and they should be more than compensated for that but 2 leer jets! lol ok I'm done w/that.

But your reply was well put and I agree fully

So President OC how do you fix this?
unlike some i wont pretend i have all the answers.. but the unfortunate thing that WOULD fix it is complete economic collapse.. getting rid of unions would also be a huge help.. what actually has to happen is this..

the poor.. have to get SO poor that they stop going to the doctor and start getting sick.. as f**ked up as that sounds its the ONLY fix.. because the opposite only rewards those same greedy doctors..

problem: health care is too expensive..

finding: demand increases cost... the more people paying for health services.. the more doctors can charge.. to the point of excess...

solution: reduce demand.... for a while i thought that the flood of health care professionals into the work place would drop prices a tad but it has not.. the ONLY thing that reduces what a business charges is reduction in demand..

so this is why i think government forced health care is bullshit.. it does NOT fix the problem, because if anything.. it makes the problem worse.. now doctors KNOW you have health care... they KNOW its on the government dime... i brought my grandmother to the hospital recently and she has insane health care.. they ran EVERY test known to mankind on her.. because they KNOW they are going to get paid.. lol it was absurd.. as long as thats the mentality, financial recovery is NOT going to happen..

but again the key is to not lose sight of the bigger picture.. and that is to restore middle class.. take lawyers for instance.. want to kill that ridiculously over priced profession.. make it easier for people to represent themselves.. make laws more easy to understand.. less need for lawyers.. less cost...

the problem is really ALL about

group A making $XXXXXXX a year
and
group C making $XXXXX a year

and of course the complete absence of group B...
 

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people also need to learn to do things for themselves again..

stop paying people to do what u can do yourself and save money diy'ing.
learn to cook.
learn to fix ur cars.
learn to be happy with what u have and not what u need..

conserve...
 

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unlike some i wont pretend i have all the answers.. but the unfortunate thing that WOULD fix it is complete economic collapse.. getting rid of unions would also be a huge help.. what actually has to happen is this..

the poor.. have to get SO poor that they stop going to the doctor and start getting sick.. as f**ked up as that sounds its the ONLY fix.. because the opposite only rewards those same greedy doctors..

problem: health care is too expensive..

finding: demand increases cost... the more people paying for health services.. the more doctors can charge.. to the point of excess...

solution: reduce demand.... for a while i thought that the flood of health care professionals into the work place would drop prices a tad but it has not.. the ONLY thing that reduces what a business charges is reduction in demand..

so this is why i think government forced health care is bullshit.. it does NOT fix the problem, because if anything.. it makes the problem worse.. now doctors KNOW you have health care... they KNOW its on the government dime... i brought my grandmother to the hospital recently and she has insane health care.. they ran EVERY test known to mankind on her.. because they KNOW they are going to get paid.. lol it was absurd.. as long as thats the mentality, financial recovery is NOT going to happen..

but again the key is to not lose sight of the bigger picture.. and that is to restore middle class.. take lawyers for instance.. want to kill that ridiculously over priced profession.. make it easier for people to represent themselves.. make laws more easy to understand.. less need for lawyers.. less cost...

the problem is really ALL about

group A making $XXXXXXX a year
and
group C making $XXXXX a year

and of course the complete absence of group B...

 

$lick Rick

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I want to know what he's going to do with the ~$1,431,598.25 that he's going to get in prize money.
 


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