Ok i just got a civic 1998 as you see...anyway im new to imports i would like to know a few things...i have done some research and seen that a k24 would be a huge pain to drop in my car so i would like for you guys to tell me a motor that will drop in with min. problems. I was thinking maybe a gsr b18. I seen there are different letters after a motor like a b18c b18a and so on...what is that? lol i need alot of help but im worrying about my motor for now someone help me plz.
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forums are for people to ask questions on topics they have already searched about but have more advanced questions..
Chances are you havent searched at all for what you want. You cant come onto a forum and just ask a question...
this being said, go search about it.. then come back here and ask the question that is less general
Chances are you havent searched at all for what you want. You cant come onto a forum and just ask a question...
this being said, go search about it.. then come back here and ask the question that is less general
acutally i have searched it and seen that a b18c will basicly drop in and also that is a jdm motor....i live in amercia so idk where get those engine i have looked around at junk yards hoping to maybe find one but the only i seen was a usdm integra ls 96 model...so i guess i have 2 questions...will that motor bolt in too i know there is a different letter behind in the code but i think thsts just because it doesnt have the same hp....also where could i find a jdm b18c
If you got money, a K-series would be best and not a b***h to drop in... Remember, money talks, bullshit walks.
The next expensive motor is a GSR, the B18s
Then B16s, then D16s, then D15s... I dont think people really shoot for D17s.
As for the differences between the B18 series, IDK, google it. Also, when considering swapping a motor, think of it like this:
-do you want a STOCK K? Chances are you cant afford to build a K..
-do you want a STOCK GSR?
-do you want a semi-built B16?
-or do you want a fully-built D16? can easily be built by saving a little at a time and if it breaks, Heck! It's a D, get another one.
The next expensive motor is a GSR, the B18s
Then B16s, then D16s, then D15s... I dont think people really shoot for D17s.
As for the differences between the B18 series, IDK, google it. Also, when considering swapping a motor, think of it like this:
-do you want a STOCK K? Chances are you cant afford to build a K..
-do you want a STOCK GSR?
-do you want a semi-built B16?
-or do you want a fully-built D16? can easily be built by saving a little at a time and if it breaks, Heck! It's a D, get another one.
i researched droping in a k and had this LONG list of parts i would to get basicly rebuild the whole engine bay...which wouldnt be bad but on this website in the honda engine codes it says that the b18c has more horses than k24...k 24 comes stock in the 2002+ crv's which i could get easily because i work in the automoive feild or just started i worl at a body shop...my dad's...anyway i found a website that sells jdm parts...i'm not planning on leaving whatever engine i get stock so...i'm going toward a b18c...i have the b18b now i think i'll drop it in n ow intill i get my hands on the money for the b18c
Well, since your going from a D series. you do know you have to change basically everything anyway?!
Trans, Engine, Ecu, Mounts,Harness, axles, etc.. swaps just arent drop in and go. they require some knowledge. Which coincidentally can be found all over this site.
Trust me, your not the first or will be the last to post up this question.
heres a few tips i tell all the noobs:
Find your HP goal and go from there
Remember this : Fast/Cheap/Reliable pick 2 and the 3rd is what its not
Building fast cars isnt a cheap hobby.
Trans, Engine, Ecu, Mounts,Harness, axles, etc.. swaps just arent drop in and go. they require some knowledge. Which coincidentally can be found all over this site.
Trust me, your not the first or will be the last to post up this question.
heres a few tips i tell all the noobs:
Find your HP goal and go from there
Remember this : Fast/Cheap/Reliable pick 2 and the 3rd is what its not
Building fast cars isnt a cheap hobby.
sorry i am new to this kinda stuff so plz over look my ignorence...ok....so if i put the engine from the 96 integra into my 98 civic i will need to basicly use the motor mounts from the integra and axles...my stock transmission will not work correct...i cant find what i am looking for as far as info for the swap...anybody got a link they can give me im going to keep looking though
no ud have to get all the stuff for ur swap first lol..thoguh by going B, it should be a relatively easy swap 
you obviously dont know what your doing so i would just stop. your better off paying someone to work on your car for you.
I guess i wasnt clear enough
Yeah, any K-series is going to require a lot of aftermarket parts in order to put it into any pre-2001 Civic chassis.
Engines that will go in easiest will be D-series, B-series and H-series engines.
Your current engine should be a D16Y8 (1.6L SOHC VTEC) with about 128 hp, 107 lb-ft. So putting any SOHC in won't really yield any gains in power, so might as well skip going over any SOHC (D-series) engines.
X##X format refers to a Japanese engine 99.99999999% of the time (I think there is one Accord that has a "US" style engine code).
X##X# format refers to any US engine OR many engines from all over the rest of the world. Sometimes you might need to Google those engine codes and sometimes there's even codes that people will swear aren't real (like B18C3 for example), but are just an obscure European version of an engine we get here, for example.
Here are some specific engines:
B16A (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
Japanese engine from an EK4 hatch/sedan (OBD2) or several other vehicles. Has 160-170 hp, about 111 lb-ft. OBD0, OBD1, OBD2.
B16A2 (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
1999-2000 EM1 coupe (Civic Si in the US) engine. Also is found in a few SiR/VTi (EK4) coupes, sedans and hatches in other parts of the word. The lack of a VIN tag should tell you it's not US (unless it's been removed) Has about 160 hp, about 111 lb-ft. OBD2.
B16A3 (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
1994-1995 del Sol VTEC (US) engine. Has about 160 hp, 111 lb-ft. OBD1.
B16B (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
1997-2000 Civic Type R (Japan) engine. Has about 185 hp. OBD2.
B18B (1.8L DOHC)
1994-2001 Integra LS/GS/RS engine. Has about 145 hp.
B18C (1.8L DOHC VTEC)
Japanese versions of the following two engines. Has slightly (about 10 more) higher horsepower than US counterparts.
B18C1 (1.8L DOHC VTEC)
1994-2001 Integra GSR engine (US). Has about 170 hp.
B18C5 (1.8L DOHC VTEC)
1997-2001 Integra Type R engine (US). Has about 195 hp.
B20B (2.0L DOHC)
CRV engine. About the same horsepower as an LS engine, but with more torque.
B20Z (2.0L DOHC)
See above. (Slightly different, has different compression.)
H22 (2.2L DOHC and 2.2L DOHC VTEC)
Prelude engines. I don't know much about these, so you're going to need to use the powers of Google to find out more.
D-series transmissions fit D-series engines. B-series transmissions fit B-series engines. H-series transmissions fit H-series (and F-series IIRC, but like I said, I don't know a lot about them).
Anyway, that's all off the top of my head and I've got a lot going on right now, so do your own research elsewhere before you decide based on any of the above.
I've been into Hondas for the past seven years or more and I still haven't done a swap on my own. If I were I'd be sure I have plenty of time to let the car sit and get messed with. It wouldn't be a weekend thing since I'd want to double check everything since it'd be a first for me.
If you want it to come out right, I'd encourage you to find someone else who understands Honda swaps a bit better than you. It's better to pay a little now compared with a lot later.
Engines that will go in easiest will be D-series, B-series and H-series engines.
Your current engine should be a D16Y8 (1.6L SOHC VTEC) with about 128 hp, 107 lb-ft. So putting any SOHC in won't really yield any gains in power, so might as well skip going over any SOHC (D-series) engines.
X##X format refers to a Japanese engine 99.99999999% of the time (I think there is one Accord that has a "US" style engine code).
X##X# format refers to any US engine OR many engines from all over the rest of the world. Sometimes you might need to Google those engine codes and sometimes there's even codes that people will swear aren't real (like B18C3 for example), but are just an obscure European version of an engine we get here, for example.
Here are some specific engines:
B16A (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
Japanese engine from an EK4 hatch/sedan (OBD2) or several other vehicles. Has 160-170 hp, about 111 lb-ft. OBD0, OBD1, OBD2.
B16A2 (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
1999-2000 EM1 coupe (Civic Si in the US) engine. Also is found in a few SiR/VTi (EK4) coupes, sedans and hatches in other parts of the word. The lack of a VIN tag should tell you it's not US (unless it's been removed) Has about 160 hp, about 111 lb-ft. OBD2.
B16A3 (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
1994-1995 del Sol VTEC (US) engine. Has about 160 hp, 111 lb-ft. OBD1.
B16B (1.6L DOHC VTEC)
1997-2000 Civic Type R (Japan) engine. Has about 185 hp. OBD2.
B18B (1.8L DOHC)
1994-2001 Integra LS/GS/RS engine. Has about 145 hp.
B18C (1.8L DOHC VTEC)
Japanese versions of the following two engines. Has slightly (about 10 more) higher horsepower than US counterparts.
B18C1 (1.8L DOHC VTEC)
1994-2001 Integra GSR engine (US). Has about 170 hp.
B18C5 (1.8L DOHC VTEC)
1997-2001 Integra Type R engine (US). Has about 195 hp.
B20B (2.0L DOHC)
CRV engine. About the same horsepower as an LS engine, but with more torque.
B20Z (2.0L DOHC)
See above. (Slightly different, has different compression.)
H22 (2.2L DOHC and 2.2L DOHC VTEC)
Prelude engines. I don't know much about these, so you're going to need to use the powers of Google to find out more.
D-series transmissions fit D-series engines. B-series transmissions fit B-series engines. H-series transmissions fit H-series (and F-series IIRC, but like I said, I don't know a lot about them).
Anyway, that's all off the top of my head and I've got a lot going on right now, so do your own research elsewhere before you decide based on any of the above.
Like got traction mentioned, I would just research what you want and make a list for now. I wouldn't go around buying parts or trying to make things work quite yet. That's the way that you end up with a car that is totally f**ked up, sometimes beyond anything a normal person (or even normal car enthusiast) would want to repair.
I've been into Hondas for the past seven years or more and I still haven't done a swap on my own. If I were I'd be sure I have plenty of time to let the car sit and get messed with. It wouldn't be a weekend thing since I'd want to double check everything since it'd be a first for me.
If you want it to come out right, I'd encourage you to find someone else who understands Honda swaps a bit better than you. It's better to pay a little now compared with a lot later.
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one thing i want to throw in is that you said whichever motor you go with you're not leaving it stock. well then displacement is your friend in that case. yes a b18c has more power than a k24, but a k24 has huge potential over the little 1.8L motor. the stock k24 is mildly tuned while the b18c is already nearing its max capabilities without boosting it or completely rebuilding it. so basically you could throw some simple bolt-ons and a good tune onto the k24 and be making awesome power with torque numbers not even attainable with a b18. even the h22 motor has drastic potential over the b18 because of the increased displacement.
either way you decide to go, good luck. keep researching - you'll never know everything
one thing i want to throw in is that you said whichever motor you go with you're not leaving it stock. well then displacement is your friend in that case. yes a b18c has more power than a k24, but a k24 has huge potential over the little 1.8L motor. the stock k24 is mildly tuned while the b18c is already nearing its max capabilities without boosting it or completely rebuilding it. so basically you could throw some simple bolt-ons and a good tune onto the k24 and be making awesome power with torque numbers not even attainable with a b18. even the h22 motor has drastic potential over the b18 because of the increased displacement.
either way you decide to go, good luck. keep researching - you'll never know everything