Haiti six days later

[RonJ]

Just think of Haitians as people in desperate need at the moment. They're in the middle of a disaster. You will find good and bad people anywhere you go. I say don't write off an entire country because you think there are some bad guys among them or because they have political and social problems to overcome. There are also some really good people there, including completely innocent children. People should be encouraged to provide help, if you have the means. Be compassionate.

 

[got traction]

I rarely agree with you...but in this case we see eye to eye. If anything we should raise money and slowly give it to them (like an allowance). The entire population is uneducated and wouldn't know what to do with money if they had it. Some would go about providing for their families etc, but many would abuse it. As a nation we are already struggling to support ourselves, it is not the time to play global humanitarian. Who will be tracking the money that is sent over? How will it be distributed? Since 2000, the U.S has sent $16,204,000 in aid to Haiti (SOURCE: U.S. Agency for International Development), was the country better off? Can you see the positive impact that 16 million dollars had? I definitely see both sides to this story, there is no satisfaction in hardship...but now is the worst time to be spending cash

America tends to get the short end of the stick. The world expects america to come to their aid in time of crisis, and then bashes us when we go to war. Aside from the 16 million dollars that we've given to them does anyone have a guess of how much our 15,000 troops + supplies + aircraft + fuel + etc, etc is going to cost? Sure we could rebuild haiti for them, make it look like Hollywood, but how long would it last before they tore it apart and s**t? These people dont think like us, they dont have the same values as us.....They had a natural disaster...its tragic.....blame god...dont expect handouts.

 

[Aaron.]

Didnt they get hit by an after shock today? And No regrets, i completely agree with you, this country is beyond the point of rebuilding, not like there is really anything to rebuild anyways.

 

[got traction]

Just think of Haitians as people in desperate need at the moment. They're in the middle of a disaster. You will find good and bad people anywhere you go. I say don't write off an entire country because you think there are some bad guys among them or because they have political and social problems to overcome. There are also some really good people there, including completely innocent children. People should be encouraged to provide help, if you have the means. Be compassionate.

while i do agree with you to a certain extent i do have to say this.....there are innocent children all over the world that need to be saved. Who's responsibility is it? At what point does america become big brother and step in?

 

[Bheims]

Just think of Haitians as people in desperate need at the moment. They're in the middle of a disaster. You will find good and bad people anywhere you go. I say don't write off an entire country because you think there are some bad guys among them or because they have political and social problems to overcome. There are also some really good people there, including completely innocent children. People should be encouraged to provide help, if you have the means. Be compassionate.

they have and always will be in need. It all comes down to the lack of education imo, these innocent children will have a violent and difficult childhood and as a result they will inherit the qualities of the current generation. This "greater good" philosophy has been around forever and the lines are still tough to make out. It is sad that there are good people in Haiti, I certainly hope they are the ones who will receive our money.

 

[Hecz]

There's nothing to rebuild. Let them do this on their own.

yea there is. houses and buildings fell down.

yes, i understand their country is corrupt, but so is ours.
yes, i understand some of their population is uneducated, but so is ours
yes, i understand some of their population live in poverty, but so do ours.

yes, i believe we need to fix our country first, but i have no way of doing anything about that, neither do you. all we can do is elect people and trust that they get that job done right.

im not perfect, your not perfect, no one is, but there's innocent people over there, just how we have innocent people in this country. You for example. your innocent right? but the drugs are still out in your local neighborhood/town.

let's say you were selling crack out of your house, and one day it's on fire and your trapped inside. also, let's pretend i lived next to you. my conscience would not let me to leave you trapped and eventually burn.

I would help. me helping you doesn't mean im your buddy or approve of whatever you do inside your home. what it does mean is that; if i have the ability to help you from loosing your life, i will do it.

 

[RonJ]

while i do agree with you to a certain extent i do have to say this.....there are innocent children all over the world that need to be saved. Who's responsibility is it? At what point does america become big brother and step in?

This is an excellent point. There are many in need in the world. How do you choose who to help?

I look at it this way. When patients arrive in an emergency room, the first step is to triage them. That is, those in greatest need of help that can actually be helped are treated first. I think the Haitians as a whole are currently in the greatest need of help and could benefit the most by it.

Other considerations are political in that Haiti is situated relatively close to the U.S. It makes sense both politically and economically for us to stabilize Haiti as allowing chaos to reign there would certainly come back to haunt us.

 

[Bheims]

Other considerations are political in that Haiti is situated relatively close to the U.S. It makes sense both politically and economically for us to stabilize Haiti as allowing chaos to reign there would certainly come back to haunt us.

gospel...guatamala was hit today, wonder how much relief we'll send to them

 

[RonJ]

gospel...guatamala was hit today, wonder how much relief we'll send to them

This earthquake was magnitude 6, which is 10X less severe than the Haiti earthquake. My understanding is that there was also little damage or injuries, so there is no comparison.

 

[Hecz]

while i do agree with you to a certain extent i do have to say this.....there are innocent children all over the world that need to be saved. Who's responsibility is it? At what point does america become big brother and step in?

if we can drop bombs over innocent people i don't see why we can't help innocent people who we've haven't dropped bombs over. you know what i mean? we invest in wars, but now let's just pause that for a minute and invest in rescuing life

I'm not anti war, continue the war on terror, but also realize terror is not just a guy with a ski mask and a gun, or a dude with a bomb in his shoe(in other words, what They've painted terror to be). in this case terror came in the form of an earthquake. let's keep on fighting against terror.

the Spanish word Terremoto means earthquake.

 

[got traction]

if we can drop bombs over innocent people i don't see why we can't help innocent people who we've haven't dropped bombs over. you know what i mean? we invest in wars, but now let's just pause that for a minute and invest in rescuing life

I'm not anti war, continue the war on terror, but also realize terror is not just a guy with a ski mask and a gun, or a dude with a bomb in his shoe. in this case terror came in the form of an earthquake. let's keep on fighting against terror.

the Spanish word Terremoto means earthquake.

Comparing a suicide bomber to a earthquake is plain ridiculous. Yes the earthquake was tragic, yes its unfortunate, but you cant always expecty america to save you when s**t happens.

 

[Hecz]

gospel...guatamala was hit today, wonder how much relief we'll send to them

whao, i was born there 24 years ago, live there till the age of seven, gone back to visit three times

Argentina, El Salvador, and Venezuela also had earthquakes on monday. Nothing like Haiti though, damn.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Other considerations are political in that Haiti is situated relatively close to the U.S. It makes sense both politically and economically for us to stabilize Haiti as allowing chaos to reign there would certainly come back to haunt us.

Just because they are close doesn't mean we should help them. They don't provide us with any kind of economical help. They should be left alone and be left to deal with this on their own.

Chaos as always reigned there. It always will forever in the future. The only way to fix their situation would be to pump TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars into their economy to jump start business and education, as well as also finding a way to remove the corrupt government officials there. The thing is, we'd have to oversee every cent of the money we'd "aid" them with because more than likely they'd get it and spread it among their friends and not to the people who really need it. Therefore it's better to just keep it in our country.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Comparing a suicide bomber to a earthquake is plain ridiculous. Yes the earthquake was tragic, yes its unfortunate, but you cant always expecty america to save you when s**t happens.

Exactly.

 

[hooked_on4]

Great pictures that tell a tragic story,

I can't believe you guys are all getting cheap with helping a country who had such an awful disaster hit. You all expect us to just sit there and let em rot?

How much of these donations really impact your daily life?

You feel bad about this country's situation then DO something about it, don't sit there n b***h because we are helping others.

CC, land of the heartless, we the US are a superpower, it's our responsibility to help in circumstances like this if we don't who will? Don't wait for Mexico to step up.

 

[RonJ]

Just because they are close doesn't mean we should help them. They don't provide us with any kind of economical help. They should be left alone and be left to deal with this on their own.

The point is that big problems, such as major disasters, have a tendency to spread beyond borders, especially toward countries with resources like our own.

Chaos as always reigned there. It always will forever in the future. The only way to fix their situation would be to pump TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars into their economy to jump start business and education, as well as also finding a way to remove the corrupt government officials there. The thing is, we'd have to oversee every cent of the money we'd "aid" them with because more than likely they'd get it and spread it among their friends and not to the people who really need it. Therefore it's better to just keep it in our country.

There's a big difference between pre-earthquake controlled chaos and absolute desperation, which is the current situation in Haiti. I am suggesting that we should help injured and homeless people there, not change their governmental or social system. Wherever aid is needed, corruption will always follow. One should not let this stand in the way of offering assistance to those in need.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

We the US, are broker than broke, and yet we have the money to give to other countries. I will be cheap and heartless because it's time the country be the same.

How much of that donations impact my life? None, but it could impact the lives of countless others that live IN THE US who have given so much for this country, and for families who have lost loved ones in wars.

The US is always worried about our image to other countries.

 

[got traction]

Great pictures that tell a tragic story,

I can't believe you guys are all getting cheap with helping a country who had such an awful disaster hit. You all expect us to just sit there and let em rot?

How much of these donations really impact your daily life?

You feel bad about this country's situation then DO something about it, don't sit there n b***h because we are helping others.

CC, land of the heartless, we the US are a superpower, it's our responsibility to help in circumstances like this if we don't who will? Don't wait for Mexico to step up.

if you only realized how much of your tax money is going to help haiti then i think you would have a different view.

 

[Kyrstie]

Oh my. wow.

 

[bizoneoeh]

I'm not butthort, I'm just tired of spending money on countries that isnt going to use it to better themselves.

I'm not talking about you retard I'm talking about how you're hurting people's butt with your post.