Re-upholstering rear seat - coupe
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nice, i would like to see the door panel arm rest too if you are doing that. That is some classy work, i have been wanting to do that for a while. Is it all leather or vinyl or what?
Once again...So, I finished the driver's side of the rear seat... Let me know what you think... I still have to refinish the passenger side and lower section...
You may notice the wrinkle on the right hand side, the pack wasn't pulled completely tight yet and that's how it looked... I'll post pictures once everything gets installed. (Not bad for my first time ever doing upholstery)
You may have noticed my "Parts for Sale" thread was deleted for the shift boots and ebrake boots. Turns out that I would have to become a "Site Sponsor" to proceed with that venture, so at this time I will not be pursuing that avenue. Unfortunately to keep costs low I would need a free venue rather than paying to sell them. If people are interested in purchasing them, I would have to up pricing. Sorry guys & gals.
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looks like it came out pretty nice. Good job and props for trying something new!
For those who want to buy stuff like this we offer a wide variety including custom work. We make shifter boots, door panels, console covers, etc from brands like Sparco, Recaro and Bride as well as suede and custom prints.
We've been working on seat kits. If the demand is right we'll be offering them for sale.
For those who want to buy stuff like this we offer a wide variety including custom work. We make shifter boots, door panels, console covers, etc from brands like Sparco, Recaro and Bride as well as suede and custom prints.
We've been working on seat kits. If the demand is right we'll be offering them for sale.
HAHA This is what I was asked to do from other members but I'm just a guy and don't want to pay to be a sponsor.... and you go and snype on my post. lol Props to you sir, props to you
Lol shiet dbramaged id prolly be down to buy a shift boot and center arm console from you if you were to make another. You should sign up for caraudio.com and sell them in the Miscellaneous classifieds section. Id def buy em 
well, based upon the response I received, I may do a 1-3 month sponsorship through here, but that's still up in the air... We will seeLol shiet dbramaged id prolly be down to buy a shift boot and center arm console from you if you were to make another. You should sign up for caraudio.com and sell them in the Miscellaneous classifieds section. Id def buy em
Here is my thread of my seats i just did about a month ago....
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=181713&highlight=type+r+style+seats
im not trying to kill yours and no offense, the seats you did kinda look like you rushed it and crap.
use a nice fabric that wont fade. spend a few bucks at a fabroc store made for cars. it looks like you used pleather. when you use that crap or actual leather, and you mess up, the stich holes show. fabric is more forgiving and cheap.
look at my stiching when the seat is together. you can see how the stiching is pulled into the seat. did you re hog ring your seats? notice how my seats have depth and curve to them.
take your time doing the red french seam because your red lines are not straight at all.
you also need a good machine to do the stiching. not mom or grandmas sewing machine.
you also need to back your material with a foam/net so make your seats full and padded. this will also hold the stiching into place and give it something to grab on.
also you dont measure the fabrice from the outside of the seat there is so much more fabric that you cant see that holds the seat together. you need to actually gut and cut your seats apart. you need to unseam the stock fabric in sections... the wings, the boxing, the padding, etc. once you do that the seats will all be in sections, you need to trace each one, while labeling, and then cut them out. each piece that is cut out needs to have "a top" what i mean by top is the fabric has to be going all the same way. if not your material will be darker or lighter in some areas when in the sunlight.
.... think of it this way, when you rub your jeans at the knee up or down you can see color change in the fabric, this is the same when your fabric is not going all the same way in a car.
in my thread you will see the fabric in sections and how it was cut and sewed together...
again...not trying to thread jack but do it the right way. you can tell a difference from mine to yours.
this was my first time too. i spent about $70 bucks total to do my right front and rears.
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=181713&highlight=type+r+style+seats
im not trying to kill yours and no offense, the seats you did kinda look like you rushed it and crap.
use a nice fabric that wont fade. spend a few bucks at a fabroc store made for cars. it looks like you used pleather. when you use that crap or actual leather, and you mess up, the stich holes show. fabric is more forgiving and cheap.
look at my stiching when the seat is together. you can see how the stiching is pulled into the seat. did you re hog ring your seats? notice how my seats have depth and curve to them.
take your time doing the red french seam because your red lines are not straight at all.
you also need a good machine to do the stiching. not mom or grandmas sewing machine.
you also need to back your material with a foam/net so make your seats full and padded. this will also hold the stiching into place and give it something to grab on.
also you dont measure the fabrice from the outside of the seat there is so much more fabric that you cant see that holds the seat together. you need to actually gut and cut your seats apart. you need to unseam the stock fabric in sections... the wings, the boxing, the padding, etc. once you do that the seats will all be in sections, you need to trace each one, while labeling, and then cut them out. each piece that is cut out needs to have "a top" what i mean by top is the fabric has to be going all the same way. if not your material will be darker or lighter in some areas when in the sunlight.
.... think of it this way, when you rub your jeans at the knee up or down you can see color change in the fabric, this is the same when your fabric is not going all the same way in a car.
in my thread you will see the fabric in sections and how it was cut and sewed together...
again...not trying to thread jack but do it the right way. you can tell a difference from mine to yours.
this was my first time too. i spent about $70 bucks total to do my right front and rears.
also, you dont want to do the red stiching on a long straight line because i can see how yours red line is "wavey". you really want to do horizontal lines, or something with curve cause once you hog ring everything back together, you wont be able to tell if you did a straight line or not. notice my red stiching.,...
again, just trying to help and give tips.
again, just trying to help and give tips.
Mine was done with actual car upholstery material, a soft black vinyl, not leather or pleather, but it does give the "leather" impression. The seat is hog ringed. The original thread posting wasn't finished, just resting on the back seats. The final product has been ringed and fitted. It did turn out pretty well. I did completely remove the original skins and used them as the diagram with some slight adjustments due to the originals being stretched in areas. The lines aren't perfect, but even in person, you can't really tell... Once everything was pulled tight, you can't see the imperfections and I didn't want to red stitch everything. That's just my preference. Thanks for the info/tips. I really like your seats too. I'm buying aftermarket seats rather than doing my front seats though.
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And I'm pretty sure they weren't rushed as I took a good 6 hours on the 60 side alone. And I'm giving myself an entire day just for the lower section.
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And I'm pretty sure they weren't rushed as I took a good 6 hours on the 60 side alone. And I'm giving myself an entire day just for the lower section.
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Well man, not sure what to tell you. still not trying to be a d**k but 6 hours???? even for a shop that is wicked fast. unless there are a team of guys doing it. in just an upholstery shop where they do this stuff daily, there is usually one guy who pulls the seats out, passes the seats to another guy who tears them down, the he passes them onto a guy who just sews, then he passes them onto someone who installs the new material, and finally one last guy to reinstall the seats.
these guys have a system down and could knock out a rear seat setup in maybe 4hrs.
if you did take your oem material off, the tracing alone would take 6hrs... if you did it right. upholstery is a long process and its mind blowing to me that you did just the 60 in 6hrs...
i took me a week to do mine and i spent about atleast 4 hrs a day doing it. so ended up pulling maybe 20+ hours just for the rear.
take your time, as from what you see in comparison, mine look more of a higher quality because of the time.
spend as much time as you need. its not like the seats are gonna drive off.
i would not and did not go with vinyl for a reason... as you can see the difference in quality from yours to mine. vinyl=crap.
if you have time to and the willingness, redo the seats in a fabric. you will thank me later and understand why later too.
vinyl doesnt strech well or even pull well over the seats when installing it. ive known upholster guys who have been doing this for like 10 years and they will not even touch vinyl or even leather. its apain in the ass and looks like s**t... not to mention, if you mess up on your stiches(holes, wavey, etc) or your tension in the stich is to loose the vinyl will show that like finger prints on a prom date.
your stiching shows waves even in the picture, that takes practice to do it right...just go super super slow. and from the looks of it you only did one outside stich. on a french seam there are a total of 3 stiches. one stich to hold the material together and two other stiches to stich on the outside of the first stich. notice my red stiching...
so if you took your stock material off, did you use the stock padding and what backing did you use?
these guys have a system down and could knock out a rear seat setup in maybe 4hrs.
if you did take your oem material off, the tracing alone would take 6hrs... if you did it right. upholstery is a long process and its mind blowing to me that you did just the 60 in 6hrs...
i took me a week to do mine and i spent about atleast 4 hrs a day doing it. so ended up pulling maybe 20+ hours just for the rear.
take your time, as from what you see in comparison, mine look more of a higher quality because of the time.
spend as much time as you need. its not like the seats are gonna drive off.
i would not and did not go with vinyl for a reason... as you can see the difference in quality from yours to mine. vinyl=crap.
if you have time to and the willingness, redo the seats in a fabric. you will thank me later and understand why later too.
vinyl doesnt strech well or even pull well over the seats when installing it. ive known upholster guys who have been doing this for like 10 years and they will not even touch vinyl or even leather. its apain in the ass and looks like s**t... not to mention, if you mess up on your stiches(holes, wavey, etc) or your tension in the stich is to loose the vinyl will show that like finger prints on a prom date.
your stiching shows waves even in the picture, that takes practice to do it right...just go super super slow. and from the looks of it you only did one outside stich. on a french seam there are a total of 3 stiches. one stich to hold the material together and two other stiches to stich on the outside of the first stich. notice my red stiching...
so if you took your stock material off, did you use the stock padding and what backing did you use?
Well, you can say you're trying not to be a d**k, but it seems as though you are...
I look at mine, and I don't see that many wrinkles or "stretch" areas, while I look at yours and see the same things... The only difference I see, is yours is a lot more contoured, which you stated, but that may be what you wanted. I'm VERY happy with the way mine is turning out. If it's not your style, it's not your style. The stitching is done the way I wanted it done, I didn't want a french stitch on every seam. If you look, I didn't use red stitching for the whole thing. Again, how I wanted to do it.
6 hours was with the middle, and one side already cut as it was the same as the passenger side. And one of the guys that I got advise from here, that does upholstery on the side, quoted me 8 hours for the entire rear seat, him doing it himself... So, maybe some shops are slower, and some are faster... Don't know what to tell ya.
Either way, I'm happy with it. VERY happy with it. So, you don't have to convince me that yours is better than mine. It's ok that you like yours that much, as I like mine.
Thanks for the words.
I look at mine, and I don't see that many wrinkles or "stretch" areas, while I look at yours and see the same things... The only difference I see, is yours is a lot more contoured, which you stated, but that may be what you wanted. I'm VERY happy with the way mine is turning out. If it's not your style, it's not your style. The stitching is done the way I wanted it done, I didn't want a french stitch on every seam. If you look, I didn't use red stitching for the whole thing. Again, how I wanted to do it.
6 hours was with the middle, and one side already cut as it was the same as the passenger side. And one of the guys that I got advise from here, that does upholstery on the side, quoted me 8 hours for the entire rear seat, him doing it himself... So, maybe some shops are slower, and some are faster... Don't know what to tell ya.
Either way, I'm happy with it. VERY happy with it. So, you don't have to convince me that yours is better than mine. It's ok that you like yours that much, as I like mine.
Thanks for the words.
yeah man if you like them then more power to you. i was just trying to tell you some tips on the french seem for it to look right. as you notice in mine. i only did the french on horizontal lines and curves. nothing going up and down. i didnt frnech seam everything too.
it just looks like you got lazy while doing it..... just saying it looks like not that you are.
if you did hog ring you didnt do it properely because the material is not pulled into the seat and contoured like mine. hog ringing the material will do this no matter what.if you have no padding which im guessing you dont you by how "full" you seats look, not to mention backing, your pull into the seats should be very very deep. look at my padding(cushion) compared to yours. this is what im talking about.
you also need to glue on a padding to the material and this takes atleast an 1/2hr for the rear seat. it needs time to dry and set, not to mention, you need to work it to were its all glued with no wrinkles.
look at the picture below, you will see two spots where the material gets hog ringed in. this vertical canal is about 1/2"-3/4" deep. now if you did hog ring with no padding you can imagine you would have some serious contour and depth going on. the hog rings pull very tight. that is their job. it just looks like you made car seat covers. thats how i know the quality and time put into you making your seats from the picture i saw. hog ringing is the only way the material will stay to the seat. thare are many pulls to the seat and sewing these on take a bunch of time. (hog rings grab onto the tabbed material under the outer material in pull the material very tight into the foam and lock it in to a bar thats in the seat)
understand the facts im pointing out for a high quality seat compared to car seat covers?
im not trying to convince you mine is better than yours, i was showing you mine to show you how it is properely done and how it should look if done correctly. if your cool with your setup, neat. but i would practice before doing someone else's because i would be very upset if you did my seats and they came out like that.
if you did everything that i did you will understand the time and how long the process is to do this.
if you want tips and pretty much me to tell you how to properely do it, im more than happy to help.
im just stating facts on building a seat and reupholstering it.
it just looks like you got lazy while doing it..... just saying it looks like not that you are.
if you did hog ring you didnt do it properely because the material is not pulled into the seat and contoured like mine. hog ringing the material will do this no matter what.if you have no padding which im guessing you dont you by how "full" you seats look, not to mention backing, your pull into the seats should be very very deep. look at my padding(cushion) compared to yours. this is what im talking about.
you also need to glue on a padding to the material and this takes atleast an 1/2hr for the rear seat. it needs time to dry and set, not to mention, you need to work it to were its all glued with no wrinkles.
look at the picture below, you will see two spots where the material gets hog ringed in. this vertical canal is about 1/2"-3/4" deep. now if you did hog ring with no padding you can imagine you would have some serious contour and depth going on. the hog rings pull very tight. that is their job. it just looks like you made car seat covers. thats how i know the quality and time put into you making your seats from the picture i saw. hog ringing is the only way the material will stay to the seat. thare are many pulls to the seat and sewing these on take a bunch of time. (hog rings grab onto the tabbed material under the outer material in pull the material very tight into the foam and lock it in to a bar thats in the seat)
understand the facts im pointing out for a high quality seat compared to car seat covers?
im not trying to convince you mine is better than yours, i was showing you mine to show you how it is properely done and how it should look if done correctly. if your cool with your setup, neat. but i would practice before doing someone else's because i would be very upset if you did my seats and they came out like that.
if you did everything that i did you will understand the time and how long the process is to do this.
if you want tips and pretty much me to tell you how to properely do it, im more than happy to help.
im just stating facts on building a seat and reupholstering it.
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If ur interested pm me for details
If ur interested pm me for details
They are hog ringed, I'll send you some pictures if you would like as this seems like a big deal to you that I didn't do it, when it has been done. The thing is about the contour, my seats have the same contour they had before... Yours seem to have a considerable amount more. I used the factory plastic from the original skins and put those into the backs of my new skins, so that may be why as they are about the entire depth of the "vertical grooves" as well as the horizontal bars that are in the top two sections.