Pulled over for nooo reason.. ?

[XpL0d3r]

If a car fitting a description of a vehicle doing burn outs and such in a parking lot is anywhere NEAR that parking lot, it's more than reasonable. The officer was completely in the right here. If the cop wanted to be a d**k he could've gone over OPs car with a fine tooth comb and found something to charge him with.

it's not hard, since I'm away at school, my registration is old (new one is still sitting back home), AND my tint is 15% all around... cop was being nice, I have no complaints.

 

[Lopez619]

it all depends on the officer. tickets are, more or less optional, not that they are supposed to be but a cop doesnt HAVE to pull you over, he chooses to. same with tickets. some cops are cool, some are not.

i've spent a couple hours at the regional justice centers law library in kent reading the RCW (Revised Code of Wasington)

i have a couple modified exhaust tickets, a few illegal vehicle equiptment tickets, and i tried to learn the laws on the citations before i went to court to fight them.

not that it ever helped

i was pulled over many times and given tickets for bullshit reasons such as not having a front license plate when i had it clearly visible in the windshield (its legal in washington to have your plates on the window) but i never got any illegal vehicle equipment tickets. what were they for?

 

[RUXcited]

RCW 46.37.369
Wheels and front suspension.

(1) No vehicle shall be equipped with wheel nuts, hub caps, or wheel discs extending outside the body of the vehicle when viewed from directly above which:

(a) Incorporate winged projections; or

(b) Constitute a hazard to pedestrians and cyclists.

For the purposes of this section, a wheel nut is defined as an exposed nut which is mounted at the center or hub of a wheel, and is not one of the ordinary hexagonal nuts which secure a wheel to an axle and are normally covered by a hub cap or wheel disc.

(2) Tire rims and wheel discs shall have no visible cracks, elongated bolt holes, or indications of repair by welding. In addition, the lateral and radial runout of each rim bead area shall not exceed one-eighth of an inch of total indicated runout.

(3) King pins or ball joints shall not be worn to the extent that front wheels tip in or out more than one-quarter of an inch at the lower edge of the tire.

this is just one example of an easy and clear violation im sure no body as EVER been pulled over for. extended lug studs. stupid reason for a ticket but clearly justifiable.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?Cite=46
thats a lint to RCW chapter 46. all relating to motor vehicles in the state.

 

[Lopez619]

^^^ woah and i thought Washington was one of the more leniant states towards modifcation of vehicles.

 

[vjf915]

If a car fitting a description of a vehicle doing burn outs and such in a parking lot is anywhere NEAR that parking lot, it's more than reasonable. The officer was completely in the right here. If the cop wanted to be a d**k he could've gone over OPs car with a fine tooth comb and found something to charge him with.

OP stated that the people doing burnouts were in TRUCKS, therefore he was not in a vehicle anywhere near what a possible description could have involved.

B: in school for criminal justice

This is me.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

OP stated that the people doing burnouts were in TRUCKS, therefore he was not in a vehicle anywhere near what a possible description could have involved.

We don't know what the person who called it in said the description was, or if they just heard it and didn't see anything. If they've drove by and seen the meet a couple of times, then they hear a burn out, they could've called it in saying some modified cars were doing burn outs.

If you see a bunch of modified cars sitting in a parking lot with some trucks there too, and you hear burn outs, what is the first thing that comes to mind? It's a CAR, not a TRUCK.

 

[DarkCreep]

vjf, you post some cool pictures, but youre a dumbass.. Seriously, read each and everyone of your posts and facepalm yourself please.


If someone vandalized your car and you had a vague description of the car, im sure you would want the cops to pull over any vehicle that matched it.

 

[bud6770]

I would think truck, RWD. even most car-illiterate people know that.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

I would think truck, RWD. even most car-illiterate people know that.

Oh yes, because when the general public (and police) drive by a car meet with a bunch of modified cars, and see a couple of trucks, and when they are out of sight but hear a burn out, they instantly think "Oh, it must've been the truck, those modified car owners are so mature and respectful."

 

[2NRSTV]

I'm a Private Military Contractor Trainee or Private Security Contractor Trainee (however you want to label me), so it's in my best interest to know how laws work and jurisdictional authorities. Also, in the event of a homeland attack, it's in our best interest to know the rights of US citizens and of law enforcement. That is because as a PMC/PSC, if we engage in any hostiles, we are considered mercenaries, therefore we can be charged as such. Also, I've been pulled over so many times, I've read through the C.V.C. more than once.

Also, my mom and uncle are lawyers. And My Uncle's Law Partner is also a California Traffic Court Judge for the Monterey County.

So yeah, unless we can find a cop (which a cop can be wrong or want to mislead you seeing as the enforcers of law, not interpretors) or a lawyer, I'm gonna stick to my guns.

 

[vjf915]

vjf, you post some cool pictures, but youre a dumbass.. Seriously, read each and everyone of your posts and facepalm yourself please.


If someone vandalized your car and you had a vague description of the car, im sure you would want the cops to pull over any vehicle that matched it.

What I would want the cops to do if someone vandalized my property does not match up with what officers are able to do. You cant use logic on this, you have to know what you are talking about. And you clearly dont. I have not seen you post ANYTHING in this thread that made any sense at all, which really doesnt give you a right to call me a dumbass. Im speaking from my knowledge that was gained from my various criminal justice classes that were taught mostly by current or former officers.

 

[RUXcited]

having you plate in your windshield now actually carries a larger fine than no plate at all. it is concidered a safety hazard because in a crash the plate could fly off the dash and cause you or your passenger bodily injury.

modified exhaust is a popular one, my brother just got that 3 weeks ago. clear corners and clear tails was concidered illegal vehicle equiptment due to the lack of the required red reflectors, or ambers in the front. tint is concidered illegal vehicle equiptment, according to wsp, my truck is 3%. modified ride height or vehicle to low, any part of your vehicle that hangs lower then the bottom of your rim is liable to get you a citation. even factory mud flaps.
any head light color other than standard white is illegal, this is harder to hand out citations for concidering most newer cars come with factory HID units that are not "standard" white bulbs.

every vehicle must have 2 tail/brake lights. which, incedently has a catch to it.. i had an 86 accord 4 door. which had a factory 5 brake lights. i got pulled over because one, just one of the 5 bulbs was out, and got a ticket. because it came with 5, it is the law it always have 5.

and one law most commonly over looked by hatchback owners, like my self, is when you remove your factory wing, you also remove your 3rd brake light, usually with a duckbill spoiler, that is, i want to say federal law but i cant be 100% on that. i know 3rd brake lights ARE required in washington.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

IAlso, I've been pulled over so many times, I've read through the C.V.C. more than once.

So you've read the full 1000 page handbook more than once?

 

[bud6770]

Oh yes, because when the general public (and police) drive by a car meet with a bunch of modified cars, and see a couple of trucks, and when they are out of sight but hear a burn out, they instantly think "Oh, it must've been the truck, those modified car owners are so mature and respectful."

you dont seem very jolly

anyway, if you SEE the truck and have an ounce of a brain, then yes youd think truck, at east i would. but hey maybe im just super smart

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

From your posts, I'd say you're supor smart.

 

[bud6770]

From your posts, I'd say you're supor smart.

Hey thanks, you too

 

[vjf915]

I'm a Private Military Contractor Trainee or Private Security Contractor Trainee (however you want to label me), so it's in my best interest to know how laws work and jurisdictional authorities. Also, in the event of a homeland attack, it's in our best interest to know the rights of US citizens and of law enforcement. That is because as a PMC/PSC, if we engage in any hostiles, we are considered mercenaries, therefore we can be charged as such. Also, I've been pulled over so many times, I've read through the C.V.C. more than once.

Also, my mom and uncle are lawyers. And My Uncle's Law Partner is also a California Traffic Court Judge for the Monterey County.

So yeah, unless we can find a cop (which a cop can be wrong or want to mislead you seeing as the enforcers of law, not interpretors) or a lawyer, I'm gonna stick to my guns.

I was confused because I didnt recall your post. So this is for anyone who doesnt want to go back and look for it.......

Lol. You just got Profiled. And yes, it was illegal for them to pull you over. It was obvious that they pulled you over for what kind of car you drive. It's like pulling over a black guy in an Escalade and lecturing him about selling drugs and if he does it, he will be caught. And then telling him to tell his homies to stop shooting places up and to not sell drugs. He was being Prejudice and Profiled you as an Illegal Street Racer due to the type of car you drive. He may be correct in his judgments, but if you were to file a Formal Complaint against him, he would be reprimanded. I wouldn't suggest doing it, because unlike a driving record where stuff is forgiven after a couple of years, an Officer's Record stays with him for his entire career and the complaint can only be taken away by you or a judge. I suggest politely telling him where the line should be drawn next time that kinda crap happens.

Oh, and I agree with them being able to pull you over to question you. They can do that, but they definitely can't accuse you of having any type of relations with the guys in the lot unless they have just reasoning, like if they actually saw you talking to the guys and then leave the lot.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

The dude is a troll. I'm getting the impression he makes s**t up.

 

[vjf915]

If you see a bunch of modified cars sitting in a parking lot with some trucks there too, and you hear burn outs, what is the first thing that comes to mind? It's a CAR, not a TRUCK.

The officer can not ASSUME that it was a car without either seeing it first hand or having a specific description. Saying that a car is "modified" is not enough of a description to give the officer reason to pull him over for it.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Sure it does, I just asked a buddy who is CHP, and has worked for Ontario PD, he said it was completely within the law, if a vehicle fits a description, he'll pull it over.

If the car is within the same color range (Burgundy and Red, not Burgundy and Blue), is modified and is near the area he said he'd pull it over.