U.S.’s Toughest Immigration Law Is Signed in Arizona

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1st of all.. many illegal immigrents from other countries dont have the funds to file for paper work to come here illigally
nd 2nd of all...yes i do have family here that are not here legally
If you cant do it the legal way, you are breaking the law. When you break the law, you deserve the punishment. Your family is here illegally, and they should be deported. They can return when they do it the correct way.


In no way am i trying to personally attack you, so dont take it that way. I hope we can keep this civil :D
 

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you know what im done with this yall have fun putting each one of yalls 2 cents in this thread

U.S NEEDS IMMIGRANTS
 


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Just thought id throw in that im super white and fully legal :D lol
 

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you know what im done with this yall have fun putting each one of yalls 2 cents in this thread

U.S NEEDS IMMIGRANTS
sure, if they are legal, then by all means yes . illegal no, stay your ass at home, all its doin is putting a strain on everything, they get , free health care, they dont pay taxes, they wont keep em in jail cause they dont have a licence, they get dui's, but they dont have to show up for court , cause they give false names, and whose to prove who the hell they are?, they do not get there shots to keep diseases and such down, who knows what the hell they are bringing into this country. they dont have to do s**t except sit back and relax. everything is taken care of, and thats bull s**t, i have to pay 800 dollars a f**king month in insurance cause of this bull s**t, cause there is no such thing as "free" someone is paying for there doc visits, and guess what, its me, and whom ever else is paying into this s**t. i say send everyone of them mfers back home that cant provide a valid id and or greencard and want to come into this country illegally. take some f**king pride in this country. other countrys dont just let every tom, d**k and f**king harry waltz into their country, why should we? i think everyone in this country is turning into a bunch of pussies that are afraid to say or do anything. something has to change f**king SOON
 

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Um Nd Do U Think Any American Would Work In The Hot Sun,pouring Rain And Sometimes Even Snow Just To Earn A 7.50 A Hour ?????

Nd As If Their Isnt Any Americans Out Their Living Off Of Walefare Too

Nd Their Isnt Just Hispanic Gangs ,,,,,,there Are Gangs Of Different Races Nd Even Bigger Then Hispanic Gangs
your edit is worse than the statement you replaced it with.
 

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EJ1, Im sorry but you are dead wrong. You state that they have to come here illegally because they cant afford to do it legally? Im sorry, that is bullshit. You must have the same mentality that its okay to drive around without can insurance "if you cant afford it". That is whats bullshit.

The reason why they dont complain about working for minimum wage is because they shouldnt even be here in the first place, they have no right to complain. And you cant call a single illegal immigrant "law abiding" because they are breaking the federal law just by being here. Flat out, its wrong if you are not here legally. My great grandparents came here a little over a century ago, and they did it legally. My girlfriends parents immigrated here about 30 years ago from El Salvador and Guatemala, they did it legally. There is NO reason why everyone else cant do it either.
 

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EJ1, Im sorry but you are dead wrong. You state that they have to come here illegally because they cant afford to do it legally? Im sorry, that is bullshit. You must have the same mentality that its okay to drive around without can insurance "if you cant afford it". That is whats bullshit.

The reason why they dont complain about working for minimum wage is because they shouldnt even be here in the first place, they have no right to complain. And you cant call a single illegal immigrant "law abiding" because they are breaking the federal law just by being here. Flat out, its wrong if you are not here legally. My great grandparents came here a little over a century ago, and they did it legally. My girlfriends parents immigrated here about 30 years ago from El Salvador and Guatemala, they did it legally. There is NO reason why everyone else cant do it either.
i totally agree with you for once
 

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Wow, last names Escobar and Martinez..........I wonder what their motive is:roll::roll:

"What are we saying to the undocumented who are victims of crimes, what are we saying to the undocumented who are critical witnesses to crimes?" said Escobar's attorney, Richard Martinez.
Ummm.....we are saying "you shouldnt f**king be here, and if you werent then maybe you wouldnt have been the victim of a crime here." Thats the same bullshit mentality that a f**king criminal still has his rights when he breaks into my house.
 

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haha <3 you too lil buddy
 

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The reason why they dont complain about working for minimum wage is because they shouldnt even be here in the first place, they have no right to complain. And you cant call a single illegal immigrant "law abiding" because they are breaking the federal law just by being here. Flat out, its wrong if you are not here legally. My great grandparents came here a little over a century ago, and they did it legally. My girlfriends parents immigrated here about 30 years ago from El Salvador and Guatemala, they did it legally. There is NO reason why everyone else cant do it either.
You have a very good point. I have heard it takes a long time to get papers though, took my spanish teacher 2 years to become a legal citizen.
 

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You have a very good point. I have heard it takes a long time to get papers though, took my spanish teacher 2 years to become a legal citizen.
no one said being legal was easy.
 

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Well yea it does take time, but before you become a citizen, you are a resident. In that instance, as long as you become a citizen within the alloted time, you are still legal. No its not easy. But if this is such a great country, and they want to be here so badly, do it the right way.
 

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This is true, but for most of us, it came easy lol
Yes. But also remember that any illegal immigrant here, was born somewhere else legally. I understand that their country may not be as cool and hip as ours, but its not MY fault they werent born here. It isnt theirs either, but that doesnt mean I should have to pay for it.
 

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first of all your spelling and grammar JUST f**king AMAZING... so try to stick with me if i misunderstand some of your rambling..

WTF!!!!!!!...........yo this is a bunch of bull ..........illegas have come to this country for a chance to give their families a better apportunity at life
so do the 80 billion other people who LEGALLY immigrate here...

nd to fight the poverty that they have in the countries that they origionated from......
NO that actually is the problem.. they are not doing s**t to fix things at home.. that is why they are here.. because where they come from.. it is a s**t hole..

.....ok every american thinks that they are taking jos that are rightfully theirs
umm they are..

but if it wasnt for illegals do u think that th u.s would be better than it is now ??????
umm America would be a LOT better off..

The cost of health care would be less because we would not be forced to absurd the costs of illegals receiving free care..

Money would not be earned and shipped OUT of the country.....

People with criminal histories would not be allowed to slip into our nation undetected KILLING, RAPING, STEALING FROM, the people who are LEGALLY here..

you could go on for DAYS..

who builds the roads nd higways for every one to drive in, who makes the nice houses so people can live in, who does the landscaping so every home and buisiness can look nice and presentable??????
BOTH TRUE Americans AND scumbag ILLEGALS who ABSORB jobs that hard working out of work Americans could be doing....


when do u see a illegal fighting for a better wage their fine with their minimum wage cuz itsbetter than what they would be earning in their country....illegals dont ask for much they just want a better future for their family nd so thier children would have a better education....
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOES... it DEVALUES the work people here LEGALLY do.. it makes it so its next to impossible for a hard working AMERICAN family to earn a living... BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON'T GET IT.. and you sit there and paint the picture that ALL ILLEGALS are hard working good people.. :roll: thats why they take the lives of COUNTLESS Americans.. IMAGINE getting a loved one killed by someone that does not even belong here!

now as for illegals that are doing the wrong thing (something of high crime ex:armed robbery,auto theft, stuff of that sort) they should deserve whats coming to them...ok all illegals are doing a crime by coming to this country illegally but most are coming here and they realize the laws of this country nd many fallow by them....when do u regullarly see a hispanic driving at high speeds in a neighborhood or doing vandalism in public properties......from what i see very rarely ........
statistics have you heard of them? i don't see crack dealers but i know they are real... just because you don't see hispanics driving at high rates of speed means NOTHING.. i suppose hispanic gangs you have never heard of? i am sure you have never heard of an illegal immigrant killing someone in a DUI, or causing other damage.. ALL ILLEGALS are law breaking scumbags.. they do not observe our most basic fundamental laws and processes... HOW CAN WE TRUST THEM IN ANY WAY...

You know what, i kinda agree with you. If all the mexicans were shipped out, who would be there to harvest our produce. Honestly i could never see a white guy bending over in a field picking tomatoes, all they would do would be b***h and complain about how hard it is. I dont mind mexicans, i just dont like the fact that there are some that take advantage and just come here to sell drugs and s**t like that, but even with that being said its still ridiculous laws like this are even attempted. They might send back a few but overall just seems like it'll be one of those laws that just gets walked all over.
see detailed answer above...

Exactly If Any Of Yall Have Watched A Movie Called "a Day With Out A Mexican" It Shows How Difficult The Life Of A American Would Be Without A Illegal Immigrant Doing Jobs That Most American Wouldnt Even Dare Doing. Thats How The U.s Will Be Without Hispanics ......

I Agree If We Could Get Rid Of All The Hispanics That Are Doing Wrong Such As Selling Drugs, Theft, Etc.... That Would Make A Difference

Nd As For The Laws.... Immigrants Arnt Asking For Much Why Does The Government Have To Make It So Hard On Them The Just Want A Better Life For Their Family
Let me simplify it for you..

deport all the illegals..
surplus of hard labor type jobs...
END WELFARE
people who are currently on welfare get hungry..
FILL the new labor positions open..
earn money that is taxed AND spent back INTO the US!

the government makes it hard because they just think they can do whatever the f**k they want..

The government doesnt really do much about it, they accept the fact that we need them, hence why this law is going to do nothing.

But s**t, it would be hella funny to see a s**t ton of cops go into a town and yell " La Migra! La Migra!" and just run around after them haha
Haha Yea But Im Still Kinda Against Ths Reform

Face It The U.s Needs Immigrants Nd Many Of Hem Wont Stop Untill They Have The Right For Citzenships Nd A Better Life
they need LEGAL immigration.. LEGAL REGULATED immigration..
a society has X amount of resources.. schools.. homes.. jobs.. etc..
when you SLOWLY increase the population society can flex, grow, and accommodate the slow growth..
when you just dump a s**t ton of people into the society it becomes unstable and volatile, due to the unhealthy increased load on society without a corresponding increase in resources....


Um Nd Do U Think Any American Would Work In The Hot Sun,pouring Rain And Sometimes Even Snow Just To Earn A 7.50 A Hour ?????

Nd As If Their Isnt Any Americans Out Their Living Off Of Walefare Too

Nd Their Isnt Just Hispanic Gangs ,,,,,,there Are Gangs Of Different Races Nd Even Bigger Then Hispanic Gangs
JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME..

deport all the illegals..
surplus of hard labor type jobs...
END WELFARE
people who are currently on welfare get hungry..
FILL the new labor positions open..
earn money that is taxed AND spent back INTO the US!

1st of all.. many illegal immigrents from other countries dont have the funds to file for paper work to come here illigally
then they don't belong here..

when i dont have money for a car should i just take one?
when i can't afford to eat out at a nice restaurant do i just go anyway and not pay?
and so on.. just because they are poor does NOT make their criminal activity ok..

..yes i do have family here that are not here legally
might want to tell them to lay low.. looks like America might finally be waking the f**k up...

if you can NOT understand why a country can just not let anyone who wants move there then you are dense.. but i will try to explain it.. if tomorrow we just said ANYONE that wants to live in America just come you are ALL welcome with NO regulations.. think about it.. yopu would have ALL of the poor starving from Africa.. South America... China.. and so on.. WHERE THE f**k ARE YOU PUTTING ALL THESE PEOPLE... HOW ARE YOU FEEDING THEM... WHERE THE f**k ARE THEY WORKING.. WHERE ARE YOU WORKING when there are SO many people here that your job is now worth a FRACTION of what it is now.. its like people think with emotion and NOT logic.. its f**king pathetic..
 
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