Florida governor candidate Rick Scott

[VSP]

Well, he supports Arizona's unconstitutional racial profiling laws. Please don't vote for this cockjob if you enjoy your security and don't want to have to carry your birth certificate around with you. Hell, I'll even thank you personally.

Taken from his website:
http://www.rickscottforflorida.com/home/issues/border-security/


Illegal immigration is unquestionably a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Arizona's approach, however, is possibly the most disturbing and disconcerting way to approach it.

All things considered, I'm a white guy, but this scares the hell out of me.

 

[hardcore97]

and just what makes arizona's law unconstitutional? since when does our constitution protect those who are here illegaly and not citizens? if any of you would actually read the law you would see that it PROHIBITS racial profiling. meaning if they pull you over and you cant provide a form of ID they can ask for your proof of citizenship doesnt matter if your white, black, latino, chinese, etc.

 

[buzzbombtom]

why do people think like retards? you know that LEGALLY you have to have ID on you right? this just says people who are illegal and cant prove they belong here must leave.. i dont get it. why dont you get butt hurt when you go to a bar and they ask for id? same thing.

 

[willowcairns]

i would vote for him

 

[R3dline]

id vote 2 times for him

 

[253eg]

Sounds like OP might be a damn illegally.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

I'd vote for him, he's cool in my book if he supports the Immigration law.

 

[buzzbombtom]

sounds like this guy is building steam for his political stands.... are americans getting fed up with thieves?

 

[revolver5446]

id vote 2 times for him

 

[oc_civic]

Well, he supports Arizona's unconstitutional racial profiling laws. Please don't vote for this cockjob if you enjoy your security and don't want to have to carry your birth certificate around with you. Hell, I'll even thank you personally.

Taken from his website:
http://www.rickscottforflorida.com/home/issues/border-security/


Illegal immigration is unquestionably a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Arizona's approach, however, is possibly the most disturbing and disconcerting way to approach it.

All things considered, I'm a white guy, but this scares the hell out of me.

racial profiling is a NECESSARY law enforcement TOOL...

think f**king logically..

NON-WHITE immigrants are ILLEGALLY entering our country on our southern border..

police and border patrol NEED to stop them...

so.. lets just say you have the manpower to check 100 people a day.. (just an example)
in your HONEST opinion..what is MORE logical..

1) 100 checks involving ALL non whites..

2) 10 checks for whites 10 checks of asians 10 checks of latinos 10 checks of blacks.. and so on..

can you HONESTLY sit there and tell me that racial profiling is wrong and doesnt work.. look I am not sure on the exact figures.. but my guess is there are probably not a ton of russian, french, chinese, etc illegals crossing at the mexico border.. so the way YOU and the other spineless liberal PC police want to deal with the problem.. simply isn't going to work... its a tough world.. and you have to treat things with logic.. FURTHER.. all these states are ONLY getting pissed because the FEDERAL f**king GOVERNMENT is sitting by not doing d**k.. if the feds did what they were supposed to do.. you would NOT have this problem...

 

[hardcore97]

^^^^^^^^^ but i wish the people bitching about racial profiling would at least read the bill and see that it has measures to stop it. but i do agree with OC on his point. if alot of people of a certain ethnicity are doing something it would be logical to check them more often. if more whites were doing illegal things they should check more of them, same goes with african americans, latinos, etc. obviously not ALL of whatever particular race is doing something but if alot are check them instead of worrying about being politically correct.

 

[joe7987]

lol.. I don't agree with racial profiling.... because I'd hate to be the black guy that has never stolen anything, donated to charity, does community service (willingly) every weekend, and goes to church... and still gets treated like the guy who beats his wife, steals tvs, and pushes drugs. I think that'd get really old, really quick.

Not to mention, from a psychological standpoint, people act the way they're treated. If you treat somebody like a criminal, they'll pick up more of the tendencies of a criminal.

On the same page.. I agree with the Arizona law, and I'm glad some sort of action is being taken against illegal immigration.

 

[oc_civic]

lol.. I don't agree with racial profiling.... because I'd hate to be the black guy that has never stolen anything, donated to charity, does community service (willingly) every weekend, and goes to church... and still gets treated like the guy who beats his wife, steals tvs, and pushes drugs. I think that'd get really old, really quick.

Not to mention, from a psychological standpoint, people act the way they're treated. If you treat somebody like a criminal, they'll pick up more of the tendencies of a criminal.

racial profiling does NOT mean treating people like s**t.. in the context of law enforcement it implies that it might be more likely that one particular ethnic group would be involved in specific illegal activity over another group...

this does NOT mean they are pulling mexicans out of cars beating them calling them names..it simply means that LOGICALLY if two cars are stopped side by side on the border.. and one is a van full of latinos and the other is a van full of black people.. it is FAR more likely that the van full of latinos MAY be illegals.. it does NOT empower the officer to break the law or be unreasonable.. and i think that is what people are missing..
if you are looking for criminal activity in different regions and times through history.. the ethnic makeup can possibly hint to illegal activity..

during the times when the mafia was largely active... it was MORE likely that a car full of italians were up to something..

at the mexican border.. it is MORE likely that a car full of latinos MAY be here illegally..

if you are off the coast of somalia.. and see a boat full of black people coming towards you, chances are.. you are about to have a problem..


and so on..

 

[joe7987]

racial profiling does NOT mean treating people like s**t.. in the context of law enforcement it implies that it might be more likely that one particular ethnic group would be involved in specific illegal activity over another group...

this does NOT mean they are pulling mexicans out of cars beating them calling them names..it simply means that LOGICALLY if two cars are stopped side by side on the border.. and one is a van full of latinos and the other is a van full of black people.. it is FAR more likely that the van full of latinos MAY be illegals.. it does NOT empower the officer to break the law or be unreasonable.. and i think that is what people are missing..
if you are looking for criminal activity in different regions and times through history.. the ethnic makeup can possibly hint to illegal activity..

during the times when the mafia was largely active... it was MORE likely that a car full of italians were up to something..

at the mexican border.. it is MORE likely that a car full of latinos MAY be here illegally..

if you are off the coast of somalia.. and see a boat full of black people coming towards you, chances are.. you are about to have a problem..


and so on..

No, it does not give them the power to pull them out of the car and beat them senseless, but if every cop racially profiled, hispanics will be pulled over way more often. It just reminds me of when I was profiled as a street racer when I used to have underbody lights. If I could only tell you how many times I had a police escort home as they would follow me, waiting for me to start racing or some s**t. The second those lights came off, police stopped following me. It was highly obnoxious.

 

[hardcore97]

well you fit the profile of some other people who did dumb s**t so they watched you. thats how it goes.

 

[oc_civic]

No, it does not give them the power to pull them out of the car and beat them senseless, but if every cop racially profiled, hispanics will be pulled over way more often.

no they would not get pulled over more often.. thats not what the bill is about.. the bill is saying.. if the police encounter someone they believe might be in the country illegally, they can request that they provide ID.. detain etc... generally the police can already request ID.. but MORE importantly.. the STATE can deal with someone being illegally here as opposed to relying completely on the federal government... BUT even with that said.. hispanics SHOULD be profiled.. because in that area.. at this time.. it is FAR more likely that someone of hispanic ethnicity would be here illegally than say a korean man.. so while the PC police may have a heart attack... profiling is LOGICAL..

 

[joe7987]

no they would not get pulled over more often.. thats not what the bill is about.. the bill is saying.. if the police encounter someone they believe might be in the country illegally, they can request that they provide ID.. detain etc... generally the police can already request ID.. but MORE importantly.. the STATE can deal with someone being illegally here as opposed to relying completely on the federal government... BUT even with that said.. hispanics SHOULD be profiled.. because in that area.. at this time.. it is FAR more likely that someone of hispanic ethnicity would be here illegally than say a korean man.. so while the PC police may have a heart attack... profiling is LOGICAL..

You misread / misunderstood my posts. I stated

"I agree with the Arizona law, and I'm glad some sort of action is being taken against illegal immigration."

I know what the bill is doing. I just separately stated that I do not agree with racial profiling, as you had commented on profiling earlier in this thread.

 

[vjf915]

Im 20, about to turn 21....and I have not registered to vote. If I lived in Florida, I would be registered as soon as f**king possible, and vote for this man. This is something this country needs. Someone who is willing to take ACTION and not be afraid that a bunch of people will get butt-hurt.

 

[oc_civic]

You misread / misunderstood my posts. I stated

"I agree with the Arizona law, and I'm glad some sort of action is being taken against illegal immigration."

I know what the bill is doing. I just separately stated that I do not agree with racial profiling, as you had commented on profiling earlier in this thread.

i get it.. i just don't understand your objection to grouping people by ethnicity... to have a police meeting explaining that there has been a reported "increase in crime by X race" then it is a TOOL to take extra effort to observe X race... this is not to say brutalize... the act of PROFILING is just a means of grouping.. "it was a tall guy that has been mugging all the people in the neighborhood" well then LOOK for TALL people.... "it was those hooked up honda cars racing in residential neighborhoods putting people at risk".. then.. KEEP AN EYE on hooked up hondas.. lol if MOSTLY latinos are illegally coming into the border.. it would be logical to say that the distribution of resources should reflect that known fact.. racial profiling in itself has potential misuse... ..but if used properly it is a tool just like the other tools law enforcement has, you obviously dont want officers misusing ANY tools.....

 

[joe7987]

My issue is that it (at best) inconveniences the innocent. At worst it leads to false accusations against innocents of the same race.

Yes, it makes sense to racially profile, but ethically, I believe it is immoral. I don't want to be made late for work because a white guy committed a crime... I'm a white guy... and a cop pulled me over because, hell, I'm white. It might be me! Meanwhile, I'm inconvenienced and my boss is pissed at me, even though I'm completely innocent. Now what if this starts happening twice a week, or even twice a month? Now I have to be made late to my work twice a month, because of the color of my skin.

To give a more extreme example. We could just execute every suspect in every crime. It makes sense. Suspects are more likely to be criminals than non-suspects. If we execute them all, we'll probably stop crime. However, it fails to protect those who are innocent.