Obama Discussion.. What's he doing?

[paulx022]

Ok so basically I've always hated Obama. Not because he's black; though i cant lie, it pisses me off that 97% of black people voted for him. Can anybody explain this? i disagree with the fact they believe in what he's saying. I believe it just strengthens my argument that black people are the true racists in this country. I'm not racist, none whatsoever. I do believe that some African Americans voted for him because of what he stood for.. SOME. Not 97%. I don't think its right that somebody should be voted/not voted for because of their race. To point this out, the statistics were 44-45% of white people voted for obama while the existing 55-56% voted McCain. I believe that we voted in line with the way we felt about political views. Given some white people voted for McCain because they are racist, probably 5-10%. But 97%? Come on. The day Obama was elected the next day at school black kids were running through the hall with their damn yard signs and yelling we have power blah blah. I don't think that white people should still be apologizes for slavery, that was a long time ago. I dont understand why we have Affirmative Action and NAACP ect. Black people have just the same amount of brain capacity as us i dont understand why they get the easy life and get everything handed to them. Same thing with equal opportunity employment. I feel that these programs are the reason racism still exists because it just points out daily that we are different. Allowing young black kids to act the way they do, its not right.
All of these points prove me to believe whole heartedly that it isnt the white people who are the general racists anymore, It's mostly the black people. I figure i would get in all my free speech while i still have it considering Obama is turning this country socialist. Spread the wealth FTW!.. not.
Please post if you agree/disagree i need to know if im the only one who feels this way.

 

[oc_civic]

he is useless.. he has been useless since day one.. and will continue to be useless till the end.. about the only thing he HAS done is wake people up a little.. he has FORCED the Republican party to stop being a bunch of 500 year old drones.. lol he has forced them to grab hold and do something.. I am not a huge fan of Republicans either (while I do tend to be more conservative than liberal) but at least they might DO something now..

 

[paulx022]

he is useless.. he has been useless since day one.. and will continue to be useless till the end.. about the only thing he HAS done is wake people up a little.. he has FORCED the Republican party to stop being a bunch of 500 year old drones.. lol he has forced them to grab hold and do something.. I am not a huge fan of Republicans either (while I do tend to be more conservative than liberal) but at least they might DO something now..

i agree, ive always been conservative in idea. but in practice pretty much all politician are a bunch of mindless drone.
And on another note McCain wouldve been a great president IMO, i was suspended actually because some black kid in my class and i got in an argument about McCain and Obama and he started making fun of how he waved because he was tortured and i lost it.. He was let go but he didnt leave until they let the rest of his team go when he was captured and kept as a pow. At least you knew he cared about this country and would die for it.. What was McCain's scandle? he was too old? What was Obama's? he wasnt born in this country and was secretely muslim? WTF seriously and he was elected?!!

 

[oc_civic]

i agree, ive always been conservative in idea. but in practice pretty much all politician are a bunch of mindless drone.
And on another note McCain wouldve been a great president IMO, i was suspended actually because some black kid in my class and i got in an argument about McCain and Obama and he started making fun of how he waved because he was tortured and i lost it.. He was let go but he didnt leave until they let the rest of his team go when he was captured and kept as a pow. At least you knew he cared about this country and would die for it.. What was McCain's scandle? he was too old? What was Obama's? he wasnt born in this country and was secretely muslim? WTF seriously and he was elected?!!

if I had to guess I would assume Obama is an atheist.. he claims to be Christian but has a pretty spotty track record of attending church.. the problem with Obama is simple.. he is a TV star.. he is someone young.. who got up in front of America and sold his s**t.. he made a million and one promises.. smiled pretty at the camera.. and let the rest go from there.. he was elected before the election even started.. because he literally had every base covered... he captured the youth vote because he was energetic and really came across as real.. and kids could relate.. he captured the black vote because well.. he is black.. people can argue that all day long but you KNOW he got a TON of votes just due to that.. and then obviously all the liberals as well.. so it was literally a clean sweep..

I am not sure McCain would have been great.. but I certainly had more respect for him.. but he had faults as well.. one of the biggest issues I had with McCain was his early interest in amnesty for Illegals..

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Ok so basically I've always hated Obama. Not because he's black; though i cant lie, it pisses me off that 97% of black people voted for him. Can anybody explain this? i disagree with the fact they believe in what he's saying.

Why can't they believe in what he's doing?

I believe it just strengthens my argument that black people are the true racists in this country. I'm not racist, none whatsoever.

You are racist, you just can't admit it. I'm racist to a point, I can admit it, everyone is.

I do believe that some African Americans voted for him because of what he stood for.. SOME. Not 97%.

You are correct.

I don't think its right that somebody should be voted/not voted for because of their race.

The sad part is. ALOT of people didn't vote for him because he IS black. Period.

To point this out, the statistics were 44-45% of white people voted for obama while the existing 55-56% voted McCain.

A LOT of those 55-56% voted for McCain MAINLY because they didn't want a black man in office.

The day Obama was elected the next day at school black kids were running through the hall with their damn yard signs and yelling we have power blah blah.

Sounds like live in the ghetto, I didn't see any of that here.

I don't think that white people should still be apologizes for slavery, that was a long time ago. I dont understand why we have Affirmative Action and NAACP ect.

Because in big parts of the south, some managers won't hire blacks just because they are black. Do we need Affirmative Action and NAACP? No.

Black people have just the same amount of brain capacity as us i dont understand why they get the easy life and get everything handed to them.

Because as society we accept it. It'll change when society changes. People need to wake up and make politicians change WelFare and such so that it cannot be milked.

Same thing with equal opportunity employment. I feel that these programs are the reason racism still exists because it just points out daily that we are different.

No. It's there for a reason, it's to keep organizations/businesses from picking an under qualified white person over a well qualified black person. Should we have the freedom to make that choice? Yeah, but do we still need this? I believe we do.

Allowing young black kids to act the way they do, its not right.

That's a social change, not something the president can do.

All of these points prove me to believe whole heartedly that it isnt the white people who are the general racists anymore, It's mostly the black people.

Which is true.

I figure i would get in all my free speech while i still have it considering Obama is turning this country socialist.

Where has he done that? Prove to me where he has cut freedom of speech down?

Spread the wealth FTW!.. not.

I can believe spread the wealth to a point. Especially in big business, but in social classes? No.

Please post if you agree/disagree i need to know if im the only one who feels this way.

I don't see where this had to do with Obama other than saying black people voted for him just because he was white.

he is useless.. he has been useless since day one.. and will continue to be useless till the end..

So is the republican party. Both parties are useless.

about the only thing he HAS done is wake people up a little.. he has FORCED the Republican party to stop being a bunch of 500 year old drones..

They will always be 500 year old drones.

lol he has forced them to grab hold and do something..

What will the republican party do? Give more tax breaks to wealthy families?

I am not a huge fan of Republicans either (while I do tend to be more conservative than liberal) but at least they might DO something now..

Democrats have done things as well. It was said that the Democratic party needs to tout what they have done like Republicans are doing. They are being quiet, don't know what for.

I don't bend to one side or the other. I tend to be in the middle, and consider myself an independent.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

i agree, ive always been conservative in idea. but in practice pretty much all politician are a bunch of mindless drone.

Truth.

And on another note McCain wouldve been a great president IMO

ROFL. I completely disagree. McCain was such a dumbfuck.

i was suspended actually because some black kid in my class and i got in an argument about McCain and Obama and he started making fun of how he waved because he was tortured and i lost it..

You lost it? Shows exactly how much self control you have.

He was let go but he didnt leave until they let the rest of his team go when he was captured and kept as a pow.

Source?

At least you knew he cared about this country and would die for it..

Which would be called a radical if it was a religion.

What was McCain's scandle?

He lied. He stretched the truth ALOT.

he was too old?

That was also another point.

What was Obama's? he wasnt born in this country and was secretely muslim? WTF seriously and he was elected?!!

Oh for f**ks sake. Seriously? People STILL think that?

if I had to guess I would assume Obama is an atheist.. he claims to be Christian but has a pretty spotty track record of attending church..

You don't have to attend church to be a Christian.

the problem with Obama is simple.. he is a TV star..

Reagan was as well.

he is someone young.. who got up in front of America and sold his s**t.. he made a million and one promises.. smiled pretty at the camera.. and let the rest go from there.. he was elected before the election even started.. because he literally had every base covered... he captured the youth vote because he was energetic and really came across as real.. and kids could relate.. he captured the black vote because well.. he is black.. people can argue that all day long but you KNOW he got a TON of votes just due to that.. and then obviously all the liberals as well.. so it was literally a clean sweep..

What you have to remember is that Obama made promises, he's let some go, and he's made some. A lot of his promises, he has TRIED to do, but the republicans have shot down, why did they shoot it down? Because they don't like Obama and because he was a democrat. PERIOD. Not because they didn't believe in it, but the fact that he was a democrat.

I am not sure McCain would have been great.. but I certainly had more respect for him.. but he had faults as well.. one of the biggest issues I had with McCain was his early interest in amnesty for Illegals..

My biggest fault with McCain was his constant lies and of completely stretching the truth.

 

[paulx022]

Truth.


ROFL. I completely disagree. McCain was such a dumbfuck.


You lost it? Shows exactly how much self control you have.


Source?


Which would be called a radical if it was a religion.


He lied. He stretched the truth ALOT.


That was also another point.


Oh for f**ks sake. Seriously? People STILL think that?


You don't have to attend church to be a Christian.


Reagan was as well.


What you have to remember is that Obama made promises, he's let some go, and he's made some. A lot of his promises, he has TRIED to do, but the republicans have shot down, why did they shoot it down? Because they don't like Obama and because he was a democrat. PERIOD. Not because they didn't believe in it, but the fact that he was a democrat.


My biggest fault with McCain was his constant lies and of completely stretching the truth.

goddamn man. you disagree with EVERYTHING and nothing you really say is right you just pick out stuff i say. im not racist, i get disgusted when i see an ignorant ass black person walking down the street causing problems i get disgusted when i see the way they treat their children, i get disgusted when i see the fat apes in the tight shirts, i get disgusted when i see them being loud and annoying. But i also get just as disgusted/more when i see a white person do the same, its mostly black people i see so who's to say im racist?
and no i actually dont live in a ghetto area at all.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

goddamn man. you disagree with EVERYTHING and nothing you really say is right

you just pick out stuff i say. im not racist

You are racist. You are just afraid to admit it.

i get disgusted when i see an ignorant ass black person walking down the street causing problems

That's called an ignorant person, and they come in all shapes and colors.

i get disgusted when i see the way they treat their children

Another racist comment. Not all black people treat their children like s**t.

i get disgusted when i see the fat apes in the tight shirts

Apes huh? That's not racist?

i get disgusted when i see them being loud and annoying.

That's a type of person, although blacks are more likely to be doing it.

But i also get just as disgusted/more when i see a white person do the same, its mostly black people i see so who's to say im racist?

Above.

and no i actually dont live in a ghetto area at all.

Sounds like it.

 

[253eg]

I only vote for Ron Paul

 

[Aaron.]

He has done nothing and will continue to do nothing. What they say when they are running for office is just what people want to hear, hardly any of it ever gets put into action.

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

He has done nothing and will continue to do nothing. What they say when they are running for office is just what people want to hear, hardly any of it ever gets put into action.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Promise Kept - 122
Compromise - 41
Promise Broken - 22
Stalled - 82
In the Works - 236

Yeap. Done nothing.

 

[oc_civic]

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/



Yeap. Done nothing.

yeah but most of the promises kept are like this leftist racist bullshit..

Increase minority access to capital

"Strengthen Small Business Administration programs that provide capital to minority-owned businesses, support outreach programs that help minority business owners apply for loans, and work to encourage the growth and capacity of minority firms."

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

yeah but most of the promises kept are like this leftist racist bullshit..

Oh yeah.. Like this one:

No. 51: Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions

Require insurance companies "to cover pre-existing conditions so all Americans, regardless of their health status or history, can get comprehensive benefits at fair and stable premiums."

Or this:

No. 56: Require children to have health insurance coverage

"Require that all children have health care coverage. Barack Obama and Joe Biden will expand the number of options for young adults to get coverage by allowing young people up to age 25 to continue coverage through their parents' plans."

Or this:

No. 69: In non-competitive markets, force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient care

In markets where the insurance business is not competitive, "force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration."

Or this:

No. 105: Increase the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health professionals

Increase "the VA budget to recruit and retain more mental health professionals."

No. 109: Fully fund the Veterans Administration

Fully fund "the VA so it has all the resources it needs to serve the veterans who need it, when they need it."

Or this:

No. 110: Assure that the Veterans Administration budget is prepared as 'must-pass' legislation

Or this:

No. 239: Release presidential records

"Will nullify the Bush attempts to make the timely release of presidential records more difficult."

 

[UCCRacing]

I agree with the OP so much... The vote was large portion due to his race... But again a large portion against him... However I feel that a lot of poeple got off their a## that normally would NEVER and voted that one day just to see him in office. No political history or views yet they voted that one day..... He has done nothing but blow money on useless things... And the taxes for the wealthy? The people that work hard and went to school and busted their A## shouldn't get anything? But the people that do nothing but take my hard earned money should be given a break? GIVE ME A BREAK! I am sick of babying everyone! I am sick of helping EVERYONE! IF you need help sure I get that, but what about all the people that use the government programs and abuse it?

Obama has done nothing but waste money... Period...

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

I agree with the OP so much... The vote was large portion due to his race... But again a large portion against him... However I feel that a lot of poeple got off their a## that normally would NEVER and voted that one day just to see him in office. No political history or views yet they voted that one day..... He has done nothing but blow money on useless things... And the taxes for the wealthy? The people that work hard and went to school and busted their A## shouldn't get anything? But the people that do nothing but take my hard earned money should be given a break? GIVE ME A BREAK! I am sick of babying everyone! I am sick of helping EVERYONE! IF you need help sure I get that, but what about all the people that use the government programs and abuse it?

Obama has done nothing but waste money... Period...

Another close minded republican who believes what the republican media feeds him.

 

[UCCRacing]

Yep that's it right there.... Because I watch the tube and get all my info from that and not from the daily crap I see...

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

Yep that's it right there.... Because I watch the tube and get all my info from that and not from the daily crap I see...

Or when facts are thrown right in your face. I see it.

 

[UCCRacing]

I have yet to see any facts from you only your personal beliefs

 

[Mr. Jollypants]

I have yet to see any facts from you only your personal beliefs

http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showpost.php?p=3022196&postcount=11

 

[vjf915]

This does not seem to be a "What is Obama doing" thread......by your first post it seems to be a "what the hell is wrong with black people" thread. That being said, I do believe that whites are now the minority.....not simply by population, but by the handouts that others get simply by the color of their skin.

I am trying to get into law enforcement. Agencies actually give the upper hand to certain races if they do not have as many portrayed in their department. Thats bullshit. I have absolutely not problem with not being chosen because they chose someone who is colored.....as long as that colored person is more qualified than I am. If I am more fit for the job, I should get it........Period. End of story. Im not racist the least bit. I wouldnt care if my police department was 100% black, as long as they were the most qualified men and women for the job.

On top of that, I often wonder what would happen if a white Tyler Perry existed.....you know, one who made movies that CLEARLY only had white people in the cast, and CLEARLY were only intended for white people to watch. Oh lawdy lawd would Jesse Jackson have a f**king fit.....but I would LOVE to see that happen. I would LOVE to see some white people get scholarships and grants, or get accepted to the job because "they wanted more white people". There would be no way it could be argued with all the organizations built around supporting colored people.