What the hell is wrong with Honda?

[Hendo]

Just swap it.

Maybe in ten years when it makes sense money-wise lol

 

[JDMxDB8]

The CR-Z was not designed to be a pure sports car, which is why it wasn't equipped with a K-Series. Same reason why Honda didn't put a B16A in the CRX when it came to the States.

 

[LowNotSlow]

That's true, I'm pretty disappointed with the fuel economy numbers of the K20. But it's still apples to oranges. 2700 lbs-ish for the new CR-Z? Is that right? Don't some of the economical CRXs weight in under 2000 lbs? When a car weighs that little, you can get around low hp with gearing lol

The 4th gen SiR hatch has 160hp vs 108, and that car was only marginally larger.

The CRZ is in the low 2,500lb region.

And CRX's didn't have to have airbags or crash structures like modern cars. CRX's are light because they're built light, the metal is wicked thin, which is why they rust out so bad.

And the SiR hatch wasn't available in America.

But in the end, nearly nobody in this thread could afford to pay $400 a month for a new car, so again, Honda doesn't care what you think. The people that can afford that payment are getting just what they want. A fun to drive small car with reasonable mileage and a warranty.

 

[253eg]

The CRZ is in the low 2,500lb region.

And CRX's didn't have to have airbags or crash structures like modern cars. CRX's are light because they're built light, the metal is wicked thin, which is why they rust out so bad.

Not to mention having two motors.

 

[Hendo]

The CRZ is in the low 2,500lb region.

And CRX's didn't have to have airbags or crash structures like modern cars. CRX's are light because they're built light, the metal is wicked thin, which is why they rust out so bad.

And the SiR hatch wasn't available in America.

But in the end, nearly nobody in this thread could afford to pay $400 a month for a new car, so again, Honda doesn't care what you think. The people that can afford that payment are getting just what they want. A fun to drive small car with reasonable mileage and a warranty.

We were a bit surprised that Honda’s preliminary numbers put the CR-Z’s weight at 2670 pounds for the manual version and 2720 pounds for the CVT model.

Says C&D. It get lowered in the meantime?

And so what if it didn't come here, it existed everywhere else. Japan still hates America for those two little bombs we dropped. That's why we don't get stuff like the SiR.

 

[LowNotSlow]

Actual weight is lower than previously reported.

Grass Roots Motorsports did a side-by-side comparo of the CRX and CRZ and the CRZ was 2589 with a full tank of gas. The CRX was 2109.

 

[BlueSiclone]

One can't compare Honda's new models to old ones.

Look at the new civic. It's about the size of a 2000 Accord. It's barely considered compact, they are much bigger than before.

The new Accords are actually "large" class cars. Not quite mid-size anymore. Everything has gotten bigger so it really hard to compare them to cars produced 20 years ago..

 

[253eg]

One can't compare Honda's new models to old ones.

Look at the new civic. It's about the size of a 2000 Accord. It's barely considered compact, they are much bigger than before.

The new Accords are actually "large" class cars. Not quite mid-size anymore. Everything has gotten bigger so it really hard to compare them to cars produced 20 years ago..

Gotta keep up with the size of the customers.