My B20 Vtec Dyno
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yeah YOU brought up the b16/gsr crankswhat's the advantage of having a b16 head on a b20 block ? . higher compression ?
above was the original question
dude, the whole point in a lsvtec b20vtec build is because of the larger crank, and yes b18a/b crank and b20 crank is the same
Why would I choose the B20 over the B18a/b even if they have the same crank? because of the 84mm bore.
Why would I choose the B20 over the B18a/b even if they have the same crank? because of the 84mm bore.
Also, maybe I didn't feel like mentioning the 84mm bore or answering why I chose this and that.
he asked you what the benfit was, all you said was it has a bigger crank and nothing more. So if that kid was completely braindead he would think the only difference from every other b series and a b20 was a "larger" crank when that isnt the case. You didnt mention the larger bore, the higher compression of a b20 block vs using an LS block. Important s**t like thatdude, the whole point in a lsvtec b20vtec build is because of the larger crank, and yes b18a/b crank and b20 crank is the same
Why would I choose the B20 over the B18a/b even if they have the same crank? because of the 84mm bore.
You didnt mention the larger bore, the higher compression of a b20 block vs using an LS block. Important s*** like that
Also, maybe I didn't feel like mentioning the 84mm bore or answering why I chose this and that.
Is it really necessary for me to say every little detail? Maybe I left some things out so what.he asked you what the benfit was, all you said was it has a bigger crank and nothing more
If he wanted facts he would do a lot of research and possibly make a thread which many people would answer instead of just an individual.
Here's a popular link if he decides to do a lsvtec or b20vtec
http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-articles/how-build-reliable-lsvtec-b20vtec-70187/
And to answer his head question, here's a quote from the link.
I chose it because it was available and a cheap deal.The head.
Let's first start off with your choices. There are B16 heads, ITR heads, and GSR heads. IMO, it is never worth buying an ITR head, if you plan on upgrading the springs/retainers/cams anyway. They are amazing heads from the factory, but B16/GSR heads can be had and built for far less. ITR/B16/92-93 heads are built from the same exact casts (PR3), while 94+ GSR heads are built from a different cast (P72) which is why the intake manifold bolt pattern is different (from here on, 92-93 GSR heads will be referred to as B16 heads). ITR heads have a slight hand port job on the intake side from the factory. They also have stiffer dual valve springs, as well as slightly higher lift/longer duration cams and lighter valves. If you want to make more than 200whp with your lsvtec build, you are going to need better cams and springs/retainers anyway...so do you see why it's just not worth the $1000-1200 price tag on used ITR heads? The question you SHOULD ask is, should you get a GSR or B16 head? Tough question. Here's the deal...B16 heads share the same bolt pattern as ITR's for the intake manifold. They are easier to find aftermarket intake manifolds for than GSR heads. However, GSR heads have a distinct advantage over B16/ITR heads. Although having slightly smaller combustion chambers that raise compression is an advantage, it is the reason why it raises compression, that is the REAL advantage. You see, GSR heads employ small flat surfaces on the edges of the combustion chamber called "quench" pads. This does raise compression, but the real advantage is this design's ability to ward off detonation. So, if you decide you want a GSR head, it shouldn't be for the higher compression it will give you, but for the ability to run higher compression with it, safely. Beware though, if you plan on running a GSR head with CTR pistons, there is not much room for mistakes. The clearances are tight. I wouldn't personally run that combination w/ stock cast pistons anyway. So keep that in mind. Now that you can see the advantages of both heads, it's really a toss-up. It's your decision, go with the one that fits your needs.
so why didnt you just do that in the first place?
Im the first person to want to s**t all over a noob, but dont make the situation worse
Im the first person to want to s**t all over a noob, but dont make the situation worse
Because it was a half ass'd answer. Imagine a stranger asked you about your hobbies. I'm not gonna stand there all day and chit chat. I honestly wasn't gonna even answer his question but just tried to make it quick and simple. It wasn't a incorrect fact, just a incomplete one.
Rickdaddy
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lol dude grow up, you were the one that started it. I'm sure everyone reading it knew what he meant.but dont make the situation worse
who the f*** asked you, clearly the person askign the question wasnt sure what the situation was. If the OP took any pride in what he built he would give a solid answer or simply post the linklol dude grow up, you were the one that started it. I'm sure everyone reading it knew what he meant.
it was an incorrect statement, the only two things being discussed were ls/vtecs and b20/vtecs. One crank is not larger than the other.
If youre going to only half ass answer questions then dont answer them at all.
Rickdaddy
awwwwwh snaps
LOL you're clearly making the situation worse. Also there's no need to use vulgar language here unless that's the only thing in your vocabulary that you know.
If anyone is going with a B20 block, you know, B20 as in 2.0 litre and not 1.8, then they would know the bore is bigger than a standard 1.8 liter. That is just pure common sense.
If anyone is going with a B20 block, you know, B20 as in 2.0 litre and not 1.8, then they would know the bore is bigger than a standard 1.8 liter. That is just pure common sense.
i like vulgar language! Anyways, the ride sounds sick, numbers are tight too. Nice build.
Thanks, I got a Taylor Battery Relocation Kit and moved the battery to the trunk, I haven't had any electrical problems lately. I also put in new NGK wires and tightened my belt. I think I'll get a dyno tune soon and see how much power I'll actually make.i like vulgar language! Anyways, the ride sounds sick, numbers are tight too. Nice build.