boosting my d16y7

95Civic Dx

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i have a 96 civic ex with a y7 in it i have some of the turbo parts already but not all.

What I have,
14b turbo
Exhaust manifold
downpipe
inercoler
bov
and all piping

What i need,
od1 to obd2 harness Priced $24
oil feed/return lines Priced $65
Injectors Up to suggestions
255whalbro fuel pump
Ecu
Tune

Now for the ecu and tune kinda lost here i can put anything together but not a lick about tuning or what i would need. I want to tune it with chrome my buddy has took classes on tuning and has done some minor tuning adjustments. Put it this way i trust him and want to be able to put a street tune on it what im asking you guys for is what do i need to buy as is ecu and chip and whatever else i would need to tune the car.
 

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You need a chipped P06 and what has your friend tuned using? program wise.
 


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that is something i dont no i would have to ask im guessing chrome because that is what he told me to get. ill ask him next time i talk to him and see. hondata sounds eazy to me since i can make it plug and play to my laptop. but like i said i need your guys help with that. Im going to call slowmotion to see what they will charge to chip and tune it i can only imagine what it will be.
 

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Have you considered first doing a Y8 mini-me head swap to gain VTEC? If so, you'd then need a chipped P28 ECU.
 


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i considered it but wouldn't paying for the head and everything needed to do the swap not be worth just vtec? Would you even be able to tell with boost. The guy i bought the turbo off said that it started spooling at 1500-1800 and and hit max at 3800-4200 and that was on a d15b7. Would vtec really be worth spending the extra money?
 

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I just posted my y8 head on my local craigslist for $300 - obo. It comes with the intake manifold fuel rail n exhaust manifold n a brand new set of spark plug wires. I'm just missing the distribute n throttle body.

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Have you considered first doing a Y8 mini-me head swap to gain VTEC? If so, you'd then need a chipped P28 ECU.
IMO a waste I like my Y7 and the extra money wouldn't be worth it to me. I been running mine for 3 years. Only going Z6 over the summer because its a free motor in exchange for building a friends gsr.
 

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Just keep telling yourself do it right and the first time and you can never research to much.
 

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I just posted my y8 head on my local craigslist for $300 - obo. It comes with the intake manifold fuel rail n exhaust manifold n a brand new set of spark plug wires. I'm just missing the distribute n throttle body.

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that sounds a quite high to me i could buy one that is bare for $100 and have everything i need.

IMO a waste I like my Y7 and the extra money wouldn't be worth it to me. I been running mine for 3 years. Only going Z6 over the summer because its a free motor in exchange for building a friends gsr.
Thats what i was thinking that it was kind of un-nessary to me since there is nothing wrong with my y7 and it only have 120,000 miles on it.
 

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Just keep telling yourself do it right and the first time and you can never research to much.
thats what im thinking alot of ppl keep saying turbo and good tune and no problems turbo and bad/ no tune=problems.
 

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Y7 with Y8 5 speed manifold and you be fine. A good tune is worth its weight in gold.
 

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2000rpm of turbo is very little..my old td05 spooled from 1500-6000 rpm according to the tuner
as for injectors you can go with some dsm 450cc injectors with a resistor box, its what most people do when trying to save money
also, street tunes are never fun nor safe..hitting just about redline 10-15 times to get a good reading so that the tuner can mess around with the numbers is something i'll never do again...after my street tune experience i get my cars tuned on the way to the dyno with city driving then on the dyno..much safer
 

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2000rpm of turbo is very little..my old td05 spooled from 1500-6000 rpm according to the tuner
as for injectors you can go with some dsm 450cc injectors with a resistor box, its what most people do when trying to save money
also, street tunes are never fun nor safe..hitting just about redline 10-15 times to get a good reading so that the tuner can mess around with the numbers is something i'll never do again...after my street tune experience i get my cars tuned on the way to the dyno with city driving then on the dyno..much safer
My turbo is a .48 a/r trim and thats just what the previous owed told me. Now for the tune you made me laugh but I made up my mind they will chip and dyno tune it with hondata for 490 at slowmotin that's what there website says for fwd cars. This is the kind of good info I want dsm injectors sound good to me but I wouldn't no how to wire in the restior box.
 

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the 4 colored(red, blue, brown, yellow) injector wires go to the 4 same color wires(usually red) coming out of the resistor box.
The yellow/black wires tie in together and to the other single wire(usually black) coming from the resistor box.
 

RonJ

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i considered it but wouldn't paying for the head and everything needed to do the swap not be worth just vtec? Would you even be able to tell with boost. The guy i bought the turbo off said that it started spooling at 1500-1800 and and hit max at 3800-4200 and that was on a d15b7. Would vtec really be worth spending the extra money?
IMO a waste I like my Y7 and the extra money wouldn't be worth it to me. I been running mine for 3 years. Only going Z6 over the summer because its a free motor in exchange for building a friends gsr.
I'm not disagreeing, but does anyone have experience comparing the performance of boosted non-VTEC (Y7) versus boosted VTEC (Y8 or Y7/Y8 mini-me) set ups. I've read where some mention benefits of VTEC. Can anyone verify or refute?
 

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I'm not disagreeing, but does anyone have experience comparing the performance of boosted non-VTEC (Y7) versus boosted VTEC (Y8 or Y7/Y8 mini-me) set ups. I've read where some mention benefits of VTEC. Can anyone verify or refute?
Yes I have seen similar graphs and there is more power to be made with the y8 head but for about the same money a y7 cam regrind would be all the more worth it. For years people have been trying to sell me on the y8 head but with the numbers I have (195/174) I have no need to due to the fact that anymore power and the rods wouldn't be enjoying my boost party anymore.
 

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I'm not disagreeing, but does anyone have experience comparing the performance of boosted non-VTEC (Y7) versus boosted VTEC (Y8 or Y7/Y8 mini-me) set ups. I've read where some mention benefits of VTEC. Can anyone verify or refute?
I can verify your statements.

I am not a fan of mini me conversions simply because the effort and money invested arent worth the outcome. If your Y7 head is working fine, then leave it.
When it comes to boosting a SOHC, I would highly recommend a mini me swap. The best feature IMHO is you get an extra 400RPMs before red line. Y7 red lines at 6200, Y8 at 6600. It doesnt sound like much but when youre pushing a turbo, it can mean the difference between losing boost when you shift, or staying in boost since your RPM's will only drop so far when you go to the next gear.
The second feature is the VTEC makes more exhaust (im not sure if I worded it properly) and that means more spool. When my VTEC would engage, I would feel a hefty increase in power till 6600 RPM.
I was happier with the increased red line than the extra kick in VTEC since our gears are so long. Again, it not a requirement, but the pros greatly outweigh the cons in this situation.


Also OP, why $65 for oil lines? My friend just ordered an oil feed line for his turbo were going to install this weekend and he only spent $25 for the oil line. For the return all you need is 5/8ths fuel hose with snail clamps at the end and youll have an leak-free return line. The A/N lines that some kits come with are hard to install, require Teflon tape, and are prone to leaks.
Youll also need a Z6/Y8 intake manifold with a 2 wire IACV. P06's can not read the 3 wire IACV that Y7 engines are equipped with. Luckily for you, the manifolds can be purchased for very cheap on craigslist or d-series.org. Then youll need NGK BKR7E spark plugs which run at a colder temperature. Theyll need to be gapped to .30 or whatever your tuner would recommend. I had mine to .28 and it ran amazing.

As for fuel you dont need anything else except some DSM 450CC injectors from an Eclipse GST/GSX or better. DSM injectors are good for up to 300whp and they are a very solid and budget friendly set up. I just purchased a rebuilt kit for my friend from D-series.org for $100, and I got the resistor box at the junk yard for $10. They worked flawlessly in my set up and I wasnt even close to maxing them out, even at 230whp. A Walbro fuel pump is also nice, but not really necessary. You dont need FPR's or a new fuel rail.

I would also recommend on doing your head gasket, even if yours isnt leaking. Reason being is it gets wear and it doesnt work as well as when brand new. I am also proof that they can give you power. I made 160whp my first dyno session then a couple of months later I did my head gasket and added ARP head bolts. When I went back for a retune I made 190whp WITHOUT any tuning or boost increase. I ended up making 230whp after the tune, but had them tone it down to 210. Use OEM, dont use any Cometic or aftermarket head gaskets.

Last but definitely not least, a dyno tune is a MUST. If youre not planning on dyno tuning it or you want to have a friend do a "street tune" then just forget about the build. A turbo install is only as good as the tune and without one, the car will run very poorly, youll get incorrect fuel levels and youll blow your piston rings and/or engine itself. Ask around for reputable tuner and go there. Anyone can say theyre a tuner if they have the correct software, but you need someone with credibility. In my opinion, the tune is more important than anything else.
 

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1. Isnt your car an Ex? Shouldnt the plugs for the VTEC and such already be there?
2. You better read my entire post, I spent about 20 minutes on it. I hope you learn a thing or two.
 


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