boosting my d16y7

obracer12

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Creep is 100% correct.

Mini-me alone is a waste of time and money. Mini-me with boost is very worth it.

Just to add to creep's post. While you have the head off and are doing the gaskets and studs, do the water pump and timing belt while you're in there, will save you the headache later.
 

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I can verify your statements.

I am not a fan of mini me conversions simply because the effort and money invested arent worth the outcome. If your Y7 head is working fine, then leave it.
When it comes to boosting a SOHC, I would highly recommend a mini me swap. The best feature IMHO is you get an extra 400RPMs before red line. Y7 red lines at 6200, Y8 at 6600. It doesnt sound like much but when youre pushing a turbo, it can mean the difference between losing boost when you shift, or staying in boost since your RPM's will only drop so far when you go to the next gear.
The second feature is the VTEC makes more exhaust (im not sure if I worded it properly) and that means more spool. When my VTEC would engage, I would feel a hefty increase in power till 6600 RPM.
I was happier with the increased red line than the extra kick in VTEC since our gears are so long. Again, it not a requirement, but the pros greatly outweigh the cons in this situation.


Also OP, why $65 for oil lines? My friend just ordered an oil feed line for his turbo were going to install this weekend and he only spent $25 for the oil line. For the return all you need is 5/8ths fuel hose with snail clamps at the end and youll have an leak-free return line. The A/N lines that some kits come with are hard to install, require Teflon tape, and are prone to leaks.
Youll also need a Z6/Y8 intake manifold with a 2 wire IACV. P06's can not read the 3 wire IACV that Y7 engines are equipped with. Luckily for you, the manifolds can be purchased for very cheap on craigslist or d-series.org. Then youll need NGK BKR7E spark plugs which run at a colder temperature. Theyll need to be gapped to .30 or whatever your tuner would recommend. I had mine to .28 and it ran amazing.

As for fuel you dont need anything else except some DSM 450CC injectors from an Eclipse GST/GSX or better. DSM injectors are good for up to 300whp and they are a very solid and budget friendly set up. I just purchased a rebuilt kit for my friend from D-series.org for $100, and I got the resistor box at the junk yard for $10. They worked flawlessly in my set up and I wasnt even close to maxing them out, even at 230whp. A Walbro fuel pump is also nice, but not really necessary. You dont need FPR's or a new fuel rail.

I would also recommend on doing your head gasket, even if yours isnt leaking. Reason being is it gets wear and it doesnt work as well as when brand new. I am also proof that they can give you power. I made 160whp my first dyno session then a couple of months later I did my head gasket and added ARP head bolts. When I went back for a retune I made 190whp WITHOUT any tuning or boost increase. I ended up making 230whp after the tune, but had them tone it down to 210. Use OEM, dont use any Cometic or aftermarket head gaskets.

Last but definitely not least, a dyno tune is a MUST. If youre not planning on dyno tuning it or you want to have a friend do a "street tune" then just forget about the build. A turbo install is only as good as the tune and without one, the car will run very poorly, youll get incorrect fuel levels and youll blow your piston rings and/or engine itself. Ask around for reputable tuner and go there. Anyone can say theyre a tuner if they have the correct software, but you need someone with credibility. In my opinion, the tune is more important than anything else.
I agree with the whole post but this. I am very very hard pressed to believe you picked up HP from changing your HG and adding ARP studs. That is UNLESS you had very poor compression before you chanced it.
 

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I agree with the whole post but this. I am very very hard pressed to believe you picked up HP from changing your HG and adding ARP studs. That is UNLESS you had very poor compression before you chanced it.
It depends. You can get a thicker head gasket which would lower compression. But, like in my case, OE studs caused the head to lift from the block after some time, cause loss in compression. After my new ARP studs, no more issues :thumbs up

If just replacing a head gasket with one of the same thickness, that I don't know. I would recommend changing it anyways. OEM or Fel-Pro.
 

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I agree with the whole post but this. I am very very hard pressed to believe you picked up HP from changing your HG and adding ARP studs. That is UNLESS you had very poor compression before you chanced it.
I have the dyno sheets with corresponding dates. Im not out to prove anything, but thats what happened in my case, might not work for everyone. All I did before the re tune was OE head gasket, ARM head bolts, and Walbro fuel pump.
Also, a couple of months before the initial turbo install I drove through a huge puddle and my Y8 air box sucked up water. The car limped home and smoked very profusely for the next 2 days. Afterwards, it drove as if never happened, luckily I didnt bend a rod haha. So maybe that couldve weakened the head gasket?
 

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1. Isnt your car an Ex? Shouldnt the plugs for the VTEC and such already be there?
2. You better read my entire post, I spent about 20 minutes on it. I hope you learn a thing or two.
I read the entire post and it was some great info. Yes it is a Ex the plugs are there if i do that i might just buy a y8 and start a slow build on it and just do it slow i just had to buy the turbo to motivate me i always say i would do it but never have so this is my first time for turbo and i want it to be nice. im new to this so the oil lines i dont no how to do any of that. Last my car still has the Y8 intake manifold on it now.
 

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changed my mind on the y8 just going to keep the y7 but i was looking up i can get a oem honda headgasket for 40 bucks online that seems like a good deal and the head studs for under 100. So right now im looking to have around 355 bucks in everything else i need to put the turbo on is there anything that im missing.

That 355 includes
ecu
obd1-obd2 jumper harness
head studs
everything to run my oil lines
and head gasket

Do i have to have all the gauges? because i dont really want them on my a pillar and i dont really no a good place for them.
 

obracer12

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For OEM parts go to the dealer and order them so you know.

I've been burnt before.
 

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Put it this way i trust him and want to be able to put a street tune on it what im asking you guys for is what do i need to buy as is ecu and chip and whatever else i would need to tune the car.
 

95Civic Dx

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Whats up this this guy^^

I like that is defiantly nice and clean will be looking at buying one of those. As for the headgasket this is the one i looked at online.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Honda-96-00-Civic-DX-EX-CX-EK-Del-Sol-Si-D16Y8-Y7-Cylinder-Head-Gasket-P2J-/180856572979?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1be44c33&vxp=mtr

also im buying a p06 ecu is there anything i have to do to make that ecu work not as in tune but so it dosent throw and cel codes.

Just browsing has anyone ever used or heard of anything about this site they clam to use maps that have been ran on a dyno already but is it true? was looking at buying one to run for a couple months until i saved up some more cash then got a true tune. Also if i bought this ecu would it be able to be chiped agian when i got my dyno tune.

http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcart/chipped-obd1-nonvtec-p-32.html
 

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I see also see that you moved moved up to a mod i remember your first post on my first civic build project lol. So what do people think about that ecu for that site in my last post.
 

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I thought that was you man and yeah moved up to mod a while ago i really do enjoy it though.
 

95Civic Dx

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yeah its been awhile since i have been on here after getting ride of my last civic when i bought my new one it needed nothing untill i decided to turbo it.
 

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That head gaskets seems to be legit.
 


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