First Civic, a few issues that I found.

kevmachine

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Hey all, I just bought my first civic, and I love the car but it need's some work, firstly I am just gonna post all the things I found wrong with it and you can give me any info you wish. It is a 1992 civic hatch with a swapped in b16a2 swap.

1. when I turn the accessories on the speedo jumps and stays at 10 km per hour and when I drive it goes up but I assume im going 10 km faster then I really am? ??

2. rear wipper is not moving, the motor get's hot but the wipers are stuck and will not move.

3. leaking oil from somewhere, there was oil all over the front of the transmission but none on the back of it could be leaking from anywhere but I degreased it and have not yet seen any coming out.

4. radiator is damaged a bit, called honda, they want 954.92 for a new one ???? was shocked at that but If anyone knows one for cheaper that will fit please let me know.

5. RUNNING RICH! spark plugs were black as black when I checked them, all for of em, I am not sure if you need to re wire the 02 sensor's when you do the swap in this car so I am not sure if the guy did that or not, it's got an intake and full exhaust right to the stock headers, might be a high flow cat not sure but it's rich, I can even smell fuel alot when Its ideling and it was backfiring a bit. not sure if I should just buy new spark plugs or solve the issue first.

a few more minnor things that I am sure I can google but I will post anyways like the horn isn't working, when reversing I hear like a metal on metal coming from the passanger front tire and lastly my radiator overflow take had a thick grey like liquid in it, not sure what the heck it was I rinsed it out and toped it up with good fluid.

Thanks for any input, don't feel like you have to help me but I will appretiate any input. paid $2,000 for the car and kinda worried that there may be something seriously wrong with it, black smoke comes out exhaust after 4k rpm also. and is it normal for this engine to idle at around 1,000 - 1,200 rpm?
 

Avant Uprising

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Hey all, I just bought my first civic, and I love the car but it need's some work, firstly I am just gonna post all the things I found wrong with it and you can give me any info you wish. It is a 1992 civic hatch with a swapped in b16a2 swap.

1. when I turn the accessories on the speedo jumps and stays at 10 km per hour and when I drive it goes up but I assume im going 10 km faster then I really am? ??
prob a bad tachometer reading

2. rear wipper is not moving, the motor get's hot but the wipers are stuck and will not move.
motor is prob forze up causing to get hot

3. leaking oil from somewhere, there was oil all over the front of the transmission but none on the back of it could be leaking from anywhere but I degreased it and have not yet seen any coming out.
either dizzy seal or valve cover gasket

4. radiator is damaged a bit, called honda, they want 954.92 for a new one ???? was shocked at that but If anyone knows one for cheaper that will fit please let me know.
get online and just research or find a local junk yard most autopart stores carry them for around 150

5. RUNNING RICH! spark plugs were black as black when I checked them, all for of em, I am not sure if you need to re wire the 02 sensor's when you do the swap in this car so I am not sure if the guy did that or not, it's got an intake and full exhaust right to the stock headers, might be a high flow cat not sure but it's rich, I can even smell fuel alot when Its ideling and it was backfiring a bit. not sure if I should just buy new spark plugs or solve the issue first. check your timing. also look into a aftermarket fuel pressure regulater can also install a air/fuel ratio guage. look into getting a tuner like hondata or chip to tune ur air/fuel

a few more minnor things that I am sure I can google but I will post anyways like the horn isn't working, when reversing I hear like a metal on metal coming from the passanger front tire and lastly my radiator overflow take had a thick grey like liquid in it, not sure what the heck it was I rinsed it out and toped it up with good fluid.

Thanks for any input, don't feel like you have to help me but I will appretiate any input. paid $2,000 for the car and kinda worried that there may be something seriously wrong with it, black smoke comes out exhaust after 4k rpm also. and is it normal for this engine to idle at around 1,000 - 1,200 rpm?
there is a idle adjustment screw for the idle on the manifold. and the smoke is excess fuel getting blown out get that air/fuel fixed and it should stop
 


00siboy

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1. ?

2. For the rear wiper motor, can you hear it turning on but the arms are not moving? Could be that the motor is bad or isn't getting enough juice, check the circuit (wiring, fuses, relay) to make sure everything is operating properly and in good condition.

3. All you can do. Just keep and eye on it.

4. That radiator price isn't right. Radiator itself should be 120-150 at most for a half-size, if its a full size or aftermarket it could be more. There was probably some confusion on the price.

5. If its a swap it may have aftermarket fuel and ignition parts, a bad tune, etc. Did the previous owner indicate any of this?
 

mymmeryloss

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Go to autozone. Replacement aluminum radiators are cheap...
 


kevmachine

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Not sure, when I rev it up to around 4-5k black smoke comes out the exhaust and I can smell fuel all the time when ideling. I tried unplugging the o2 sensor to see what that would do, and when I did it didn't shot any black smoke anymore and the smell of fuel has noticably decreased, of course I pluged it back in, I was only testing out something, could this be a bad o2 sensor?
 

98ej8

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First things first, go to a shop and get a fuel system clean.
 

kevmachine

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I am wondering if it's the wrong ecu, it's a p30 with the numbers 37820-p30-n21 on it, could a bad short ram filter cause it to run rich? it look's old and dirty.
 

kevmachine

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also they engine heat gauge isn't working that good, seem's to take forever for it to move. it's a jdm second gen b16a in the car. I don't know if the ecu was chipped or not. there's a few wires in the engine bay that don't go anywhere as well.
 

00siboy

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P30 is the correct ecu. Replace the air filter because its cheap and needs done anyway, although I doubt thats the problem. Second gen b16 is obd2 right? If so, try scanning for codes. You could have codes that aren't showing up as a check engine light. Also try tracing those wires back to their origin.
 

jdmd.hatch

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Hey all, I just bought my first civic, and I love the car but it need's some work, firstly I am just gonna post all the things I found wrong with it and you can give me any info you wish. It is a 1992 civic hatch with a swapped in b16a2 swap.

1. when I turn the accessories on the speedo jumps and stays at 10 km per hour and when I drive it goes up but I assume im going 10 km faster then I really am? ??

2. rear wipper is not moving, the motor get's hot but the wipers are stuck and will not move.

3. leaking oil from somewhere, there was oil all over the front of the transmission but none on the back of it could be leaking from anywhere but I degreased it and have not yet seen any coming out.

4. radiator is damaged a bit, called honda, they want 954.92 for a new one ???? was shocked at that but If anyone knows one for cheaper that will fit please let me know.

5. RUNNING RICH! spark plugs were black as black when I checked them, all for of em, I am not sure if you need to re wire the 02 sensor's when you do the swap in this car so I am not sure if the guy did that or not, it's got an intake and full exhaust right to the stock headers, might be a high flow cat not sure but it's rich, I can even smell fuel alot when Its ideling and it was backfiring a bit. not sure if I should just buy new spark plugs or solve the issue first.

a few more minnor things that I am sure I can google but I will post anyways like the horn isn't working, when reversing I hear like a metal on metal coming from the passanger front tire and lastly my radiator overflow take had a thick grey like liquid in it, not sure what the heck it was I rinsed it out and toped it up with good fluid.

Thanks for any input, don't feel like you have to help me but I will appretiate any input. paid $2,000 for the car and kinda worried that there may be something seriously wrong with it, black smoke comes out exhaust after 4k rpm also. and is it normal for this engine to idle at around 1,000 - 1,200 rpm?
1) Bad speed sensor or bad ecu(bad chip if chipped) or a swap done wrong
2) It's siezed
3)Check the cam plug and vtec solenoid. If those aren't leaking the the dizzy o-ring.
4)http://www.summitracing.com/search/Year/1995/Make/HONDA/Model/CIVIC/Department/Cooling-Heating/Section/Radiators/?Ns=Rank|Asc These are way cheaper.
5)Check if the ecu is chipped. If not check the O2's.

Does the Metal on Metal sound like whining? If so its normal.
The Grey sludge is dirtyness from never flushing/cleaning the coolant system. Or worse case scenario blown head gasket in which case it would be milky looking.
Around 4K vtec kicks in so the ecu richens up the engine so it won't lean spike. This is normal to a degree.
High idle usually means vacuum leak so check for that. If there are no leaks, theres a flat head screw on the TB.
 

00siboy

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^^High idle is usually IACV or FITV, fluctuating idle is more caused by vacuum leaks. And if he is seeing smoke coming out the tail pipe its not "normal to a degree".
 

kevmachine

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I jumped for check engine codes, got a code for the traction control and a code 20 for an electronic load detector, I popped the hood and looked in the fuse box, but my fuse box doesn't have one of those things built into it, I am not sure if the usdm civic's have them or if the jdm fuse box doesn't have them. But people are saying that this error code could be related to a bad ecu and wires and the wire job doesn't look the best. I just can't get it to run not as rich. I took the spark plugs out cleaned off the thick layer of soot on them, seemed to run good for 5 or so minutes then sputtering as I the plugs become coated again. Gotta friend that works at my local honda dealer as a mechanic, might have to get him to work on it for me. might have to find what's wrong with the coolant gauge, I haven't noticed the fan on the radiator spin yet even after letting it idle for 30 minutes, I am thinking this may be causing some of my rich conditions but not all I am sure. Cleaned my intake air temperature sensor, it was black *not sure if this is normal* got it back to brass color and didn't help any with running rich.
 

kevmachine

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I was messing around over the weekend trying to solve my running rich issue, So I went to a scrap yard to get some front seats and the guy told me to replace the thermastat, I also Picked up another set of plugs NGK V power's and I ran my Maf sensor directly to the intake, it was on a weird hose that had like 2 other hose's connecting to it. after doing all that finally the plugs are not fouling up right away, let it run for about 15 minutes and the plugs were all clean, where after only a minute they would all be black before, I think one of the hose's that was attached to the MAF sensor hose went to the charcoal canister, I just hope I didn't screw anything up solving this issue. Let me know what you guy's think.
 


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