Super quick Civic

[earlybill1]

So of course I've got big plans for my 97 ex ( complete Si clone) which ill get to later . My question is that when I do the b16a2 swap ( in February) and I don't know which trans to use yet ne suggestions but what make the Civic super quick as in off the line? Is it the way you would build the transmission or the motor ?( I know ppl will say remove extra weight and I know that) So what parts need to be changed can any one give me a parts list to make it as quick as possible? Also I've done a huge amount of Googling looking for a parts list of what all I need to do the complete Si clone but just finding a few or same things I know there's gotta be more so can anyone gibe me a list or a link for the list to help with my clone thanks for any and all advice

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[504scene]

do a c5 tranny the a2 tranny is rather weak compared to the others from what ive read n heard (syncros) thats what i plan on doing for mine but the a2 is quick

 

[504scene]

and theres the decision of if u want lsd or not

 

[earlybill1]

do a c5 tranny the a2 tranny is rather weak compared to the others from what ive read n heard (syncros) thats what i plan on doing for mine but the a2 is quick

Hey thanks 504 for ur advice now what car does the c5 come from what's syncros? But if a2 is weak but also quick would upgrading clutch and fly wheel do any better? Is the c5 quick or weak or bigger thanks again

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[2slo4u]

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use the SI tranny, it'll be cheaper and easier to find as well as give you the shorter gears that you'll want for the "off the line"

c5 is the Integra Type R tranny

 

[emerican]

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[earlybill1]

spammer is banned and the posts he made deleted
op i also deleted your post about him since his post wasnt ther anymore yours didnt need to be there.

Thanks a bunch that's a first for me with spam hope my Droid didn't get infected lol

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[earlybill1]

boop user is a spammer*

use the SI tranny, it'll be cheaper and easier to find as well as give you the shorter gears that you'll want for the "off the line"

c5 is the Integra Type R tranny

Ok ill stay with Si tran I'm assuming that its the trans that comes with the b16a2 rite would u know bout which clutch and flywheel to add to it like best bang for buck its still gonna be my DD also my horse power goal is 200 which should be super easy with the rote bolt on plus port n Polish I'm just needing help on all parts the help with power gains with a tune lol I've never been able to afford to do this but now I'm doing ok and ready to get back into what I've always wanted to do thanks again

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[b16lewis]

Maybe this will help.
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
In my car I have a ctr trans. I love it.

 

[2slo4u]

stock flywheel with a stage 2 sprung clutch will do you good..just make sure to get your flywheel resurfaced
with the sprung clutch its going to feel a little bit stiffer and grab little more towards the top but it'll feel soft still and more like stock than compared to an unsprung clutch

 

[mc360]

are you set on buying a swap? you can turbo your car for as much or cheaper than a full b16 pr b18c swap and make more power.I just boosted my d16y5 and i am making 166hp and 149tq to the wheels which and si only puts down about 140hp 115tq to the wheels, i did this all for about $2700

 

[504scene]

Hey thanks 504 for ur advice now what car does the c5 come from what's syncros? But if a2 is weak but also quick would upgrading clutch and fly wheel do any better? Is the c5 quick or weak or bigger thanks again

Droidx,97CIVIC

a2 syncros suck ass they cant take too much but like they said its cheaper easier to find and still quick the c5 has stronger syncro and thus can take more abuse they both have nice gear ratios but id perfer that c5 lol

 

[earlybill1]

are you set on buying a swap? you can turbo your car for as much or cheaper than a full b16 pr b18c swap and make more power.I just boosted my d16y5 and i am making 166hp and 149tq to the wheels which and si only puts down about 140hp 115tq to the wheels, i did this all for about $2700

I believe Si b16a2 puts out 160 HP and 111 tq did u build your y5 bottom end PR is everything stock? My go is 200 HP NA b16a2 which should be easy with rite bolt ons and a good tune . Then I'd keep my d16y8 in my garage and learn how to build it for a complete Turbo setup or just see what I can get with a built y8 NA and see what happens

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[mc360]

160hp is rated to the crank im pushing out 166hp to the wheels, got to remember that you loose like 10-15% through the drivetrain.any d16 is capable of 220whp with a good tune on stock internals, im only running 7psi on a garrett super 60 with stock internals in my y5. as soon as i get a little more funds im going to buy a manual boost controller and turn up the boost to 10 or 11 psi and retune it and i will probably be close to the stock internals limit around 210-220. also torque is what gets you moving so my 149tq is going to poop all over si off the line

 

[earlybill1]

160hp is rated to the crank im pushing out 166hp to the wheels, got to remember that you loose like 10-15% through the drivetrain.any d16 is capable of 220whp with a good tune on stock internals, im only running 7psi on a garrett super 60 with stock internals in my y5. as soon as i get a little more funds im going to buy a manual boost controller and turn up the boost to 10 or 11 psi and retune it and i will probably be close to the stock internals limit around 210-220. also torque is what gets you moving so my 149tq is going to poop all over si off the line

Ok to the crank.....I live n Tennessee really close to Huntsville Alabama and that's where the shop is that I'm going to use for swap or Turbo but the shop has said it'll cost just as much for a Turbo y8 as to just swap to b16 and then I'd have better options for more after market parts for the b16 I'd just almost Max out with Turbo y8 220 hp don't ya think thanks for all the advice its giving me huge options keep them coming lol

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[mc360]

depends on the size of the turbo you get and injectors and stuff. dont pay a shop to do it learn to do it your self by doing research online, i bought parts for a year for my turbo build and in that year i did all the research i needed and installed it myself when the time came and it feels amazing.my garrett super 60 is capable of flowing 35lbs per min and 1lb per min can support up to 10hp so 35lbs x 10 = 350hp to the crank max with my turbo. yes i will stop at 210hp for NOW but once i get money to build my block i will be going for 280-300hp and all i have to do is get a boost controller and turn up the boost. d16 motors have just as much support as the b series expecially the d16y8, i wouldnt buy a b16 there gutless i would go for a gsr but think about it you can pay $2500 for a swap with 140hp to the crank and have to do bolt ons like exhaust intake and header cams and bla bla bla or you could turbo. HP vs money turbo is the way to go NA will take alot of money per horsepower to make any power over stock

 

[earlybill1]

Damn u make a great point well I got til February to figure out what I wanna do I'd luv to keep my y8 and boost it just don't wanna blow it early like u I wanna build bottom to handle alot

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[techavluis]

well, im sure like all of us. ones you go boost (which in your care with a d16 will be 200-215whp) your going to want more power. so you need to be ok with the fact that b makes more power at the end of the day. yes, for what your asking for now.... d16 all the way. i think you can go boost and end up with more power. but if you think u will ever pass that.... it would have been better to go b.

this is coming from a 300whp+ d16y8 owner btw.

 

[mc360]

yes a b series has more potential but i have seen plenty of turbo d16 making 700hp so to me there is no need for a b series if a d can handle 700hp. if you buy a quality kit the turbo will bolt on and only take like 8 hours at the max to install. check out go-autoworks-store.com there cheapest kit is $1989 and you have 3 choices, the third one supports 400hp. i would much rather pay $2000 for 400hp turbo setup than a 160hp b16 motor, just play it smart and know the safe limits of the stock block fora d16 is 220hp or less so slowly increase your boost starting at like 5 psi and work up until you hit 200hp and stop till you can afford to build your block