Mr. Redline, please understand that i am not butthurt, i was under the impression that some one would have something, anything on this. Suggestions on what trouble shooting steps even would be great. Yes I have researched quite alot about this, having an extended warranty (cuz when you buy brand new you might as well spend an extra 250$ to get 3 extra years on your warranty) I have brought this car into the dealer multiple times, the noise will only recreate when the engine sits over night in the cold and is completely cold. Once again i have done lots of research on this and am getting no where. So i thought i would join a Civic forum and see if there were anybody that is helpful out there. And apparently this is just like any other forum where if you post something does not like you get belittled and F***ED with for just wanting some help. Look i had this post up for over a week and no one even made 1 suggestion. But when i complain i do not get any help i just get belittled and treated like a moron. I did not serve my country in the USMC to be treated like s**t. So carry on with your nonsense was just looking for help.