1995 EK civic King Springs Question????

[Ekcivic1]

Hello all, I have a 95 ek honda civic and im wanting to lower it with king springs Im not sure if to go with super lows or ultra lows, my civic does not have rims it has just normal tyres that come with it, the tyres have 175/65R14 written on them if that helps with what size the tyres are. super lows?? or ultra lows?? what do you guys think? ill be running stock shocks.

cheers Tom

 

[CO671]

1) There's no such thing as a 95 EK, the generation is 96-00 that's commonly referred to as EK.
2) Why are you getting specifically King springs? I understand King is an Australian company and you're from Australia too.
3) Lowering your vehicle on stock shocks will blow the shocks, trust me, i'm lowered on stock shocks and they're blown.
4) It's advised not to lower the stock shocks in the first place, but if the owner decides to going lower than 1.5 inches, that's just ridiculous and highly NOT recommended.
-From my understanding King Ultra Low's are a 2.7in drop, and King Super Low's are a 2.0in drop.
5) I wouldn't recommend either of them as they're way too low and don't even mention a spring rate.
6) What's your budget, why are you spending around $260 USD for VERY BAD springs when you can spend less for decent springs for your car. If you just want to go LOW, and you have no care for your shocks and have less than $500 to spend, then I don't know what else to tell you.
7) If you do end up lowering you car, the rear will have some negative camber, to fix that here's a thread:
http://www.diymyhonda.com/civic/rear-washer-camber-trick/

Read more info on lowering / suspension upgrades here:
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2967499


If you have any concern on any other 96-00 Civic modifications, click the link below *in my signature* I have quite a bit listed and it's constantly updated.

 

[civexspeedy]

3) Lowering your vehicle on stock shocks will blow the shocks, trust me, i'm lowered on stock shocks and they're blown..

No, not in all cases. You can use lowering springs on stock shocks provided they do not drop the car an excess amount and if they have a soft, progressive spring rate.

That said, OP if you wan to lower your car on the OE shocks, you should limit your selection of springs to ones that lower around 1.5-1.75" max. Those springs should have a soft and progressive enough spring rate for your OE shocks to still last and give you a relatively smooth ride. If you want to go lower, either buy a good set of aftermarket shocks or go for an adjustable coilover setup.

 

[CO671]

No, not in all cases. You can use lowering springs on stock shocks provided they do not drop the car an excess amount and if they have a soft, progressive spring rate.

That said, OP if you wan to lower your car on the OE shocks, you should limit your selection of springs to ones that lower around 1.5-1.75" max. Those springs should have a soft and progressive enough spring rate for your OE shocks to still last and give you a relatively smooth ride. If you want to go lower, either buy a good set of aftermarket shocks or go for an adjustable coilover setup.

uhhh..

1) There's no such thing as a 95 EK, the generation is 96-00 that's commonly referred to as EK.
2) Why are you getting specifically King springs? I understand King is an Australian company and you're from Australia too.
3) Lowering your vehicle on stock shocks will blow the shocks, trust me, i'm lowered on stock shocks and they're blown.
4) It's advised not to lower the stock shocks in the first place, but if the owner decides to going lower than 1.5 inches, that's just ridiculous and highly NOT recommended.
-From my understanding King Ultra Low's are a 2.7in drop, and King Super Low's are a 2.0in drop.
5) I wouldn't recommend either of them as they're way too low and don't even mention a spring rate.
6) What's your budget, why are you spending around $260 USD for VERY BAD springs when you can spend less for decent springs for your car. If you just want to go LOW, and you have no care for your shocks and have less than $500 to spend, then I don't know what else to tell you.
7) If you do end up lowering you car, the rear will have some negative camber, to fix that here's a thread:
http://www.diymyhonda.com/civic/rear-washer-camber-trick/

Read more info on lowering / suspension upgrades here:
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2967499


If you have any concern on any other 96-00 Civic modifications, click the link below *in my signature* I have quite a bit listed and it's constantly updated.

anywho, for lower/spring rates here's a list from HT

96-00 EX - 165F/80R (P/P)
99-00 Si (EM1) - 201F/99.8R (P/P)
97, 00-01 ITR - 250F/250R (L/P)
GS-R - 200F/95R (P/P)
CTR - 240/240 (L/P)
Aftermarket
H&R OE - 280F/190R (P/P)
Eibach ProKit - 290F/190R (P/P
H&R Sport - 330F/280R (P/P)
Eibach Sportline - 310F/275R (P/P)
Gold-line GL 2.5" drop - 320/190 (P/P)
Gold-line GPS 1.25" drop - 275/160 (P/P)
Koni RSK Suspension kit - 154-205/270 (P/L)
Neuspeed SofSports - 260F/150R (P/P)
Neuspeed Sport - 280F/180R (P/P)
Neuspeed Race - 485F/395R
Skunk Coilovers -old - 400F/300R (L/L) for civic, 500F/400R for integra
Skunk2 Coilovers - new - 500F/400r (L/L)
Spoon Full Coilovers - 300/240
Progress Coilovers - 350F/250R (P/P)
Progress Lowering Springs - 320F/200R (P/P)
Ground Control Coilover - 380F/280R (P/P)
Tein RA/RE/RS - 783F/559R (L/L)
Tein HT - 1119F/448R (L/L)
Tein HG - 365F/129-196R (L/P)
Tein SS - 448F/224R
Tein Flex - 504F/280R
Tein S. Tech - 235F/140R
Tokico Illumina Kit - 250/123 (P/P)
APEX'i WS - 447f/178r
SSR Cup - 392/280
SSR S1 - 448/448
JIC FLT-A2s - USDM - 504F/336R (L/L)

 

[Trekk]

King springs and Lovells are great springs as far as overseas stuff goes. I don't know if lovells makes anything for a civic but I've run both in my other car. Both are well known in the Holden world.

I did have H R race springs years ago on one of my civics @2.5 in the front it was a really low drop. My current civic has S tech which I think is 1.5 in the front. With 16's I still have a wheel gap. I'd like to drop another .5 that would pretty much have the wheel gap to zero. So for me I think 2inch or as close as you can get looks best.

I can say with my S tech. My camber is still in the green by a hair, when I aligned it with no camber kit. So pretty much anything lower is going to need a camber kit if you want to see long life out of your tires.

 

[civexspeedy]

uhhh..




anywho, for lower/spring rates here's a list from HT

You did not explain why in either of those "reasons". You said lowering on stock shocks will blow them, not always true. Then you said it's not advised to lower on stock shocks, well that's because most people don't know why and just follow what others said or are making conclusions because they did something wrong with their own car. Then you said lowering over 1.5" is ridiculous when it comes to stock shocks without futrther explanation. Technically speaking the amount of drop is not what directly affects the wear/tear of the shocks. The spring rate does. If you were somehow able to lower the car 3" while retaining a mild and progressive enough spring rate and also have enough droop and travel, the shocks would technically be fine. But that's not really possible, just hypothetically speaking.. This is why springs like STechs, Progress sport springs, tokico hp springs, eibach pro kit, etc.. Work well with stock shocks. Mild drop with a mild yet progressive spring rate that is well within the range of the shocks valving AND travel.