new kid doin a clutch soon

[stavi]

so ill spare you guys the dirty details and cut to the chase to avoid any silly 'new guy' thread, first import car, never dealt with a transaxle before. anyways, 94 sedan. 142xxx miles. totally virgin. never been apart. needs a clutch and throwout bearing. I've watched youtube vids and collected a great deal of info(so much as I'm not asking how to do it) what it boils down to is time constraint and learning the his and lows of these cars. while the the car is apart,trans out and all, what else should i expect to need replacing? passenger side axle? any easy to reach motor/trans mounts? all in all, i know ill be replacing the clutch(the whole kit they sell at parts houses) and the starter while I'm in there(family owns an electrical rebuild shop, might as well) are there any particular sensors or any tiny tidbits that are easy to reach and would be easiest to deal with while its torn down? ill most likely be tackling new exhaust from the cat, back. i know, don't fix what aint broke, but that doesn't pertain to preventative maintenance. so any and all advice on anything that is common(or not) or anything that should particularly be inspected, would be greatly appreciated. I'm a single dad with short amounts of time to work on my only ride. so all of this is important. id like to place an order for everything all at once and hopefully avoid going between stripped car and parts supplier more than once or twice. thanks for the previous help fellas. take it easy

 

[RonJ]

Why are you replacing the clutch? Has it already been replaced previously?

Do you plan to replace the flywheel and pilot bearing?

While you have the clutch off, check the rear main seal for an oil leak. Replace if needed.

Any problems with the car?

 

[stavi]

ron, i do not believe the clutch to have been replaced. reason for replacement is that it is beginning to slip, and the throwout bearing is making some nasty racket. and yes, i plan on purchasing a kit with the clutch, pressure plate, throwout and pilot bearings. i figured id be checking the rear main, but as far as i can see(doesn't mean much) there is no oil anywhere to be seen on the lower end of this car. just a light weeping from the valve cover and the distributor. other than the noise and beginning stages of slipping, the car is running like a top. do have a hunting idle to tend to though(been watching eric the car guy on youtube, given me plenty to look for.) but thats another story. I'm mainly looking at the clutch right now and the idle will be solved in the mean time. thanks for the timely response.

 

[RonJ]

reason for replacement is that it is beginning to slip,

This is a good reason to replace the clutch.

and the throwout bearing is making some nasty racket. and yes,

Tell us how you know that the throw out bearing is making the noise.

i plan on purchasing a kit with the clutch, pressure plate, throwout and pilot bearings.

You also should either resurface the flywheel or replace it. I recommend replacing.

do have a hunting idle to tend to though(been watching eric the car guy on youtube, given me plenty to look for.) but thats another story.

Start by cleaning the IACV and FITV, and bleeding the cooling system.

 

[stavi]

i believe its the throwout because at idle, in neutral it rattles like my grammys chyrsler. and with the clutch pedal depressed, the noise is gone. another symptom is being a little more difficult to shift into 1st and then between 1st and 2nd than that of my previous experience in a standard transmission fwd car. is that relevant to a throwout? i will be sure to look into a flywheel for sure. the cooling system air bleeding process will be my first step, then the fitv. iacv 3rd. it has not been a high priority because it only happens after setting for 1-8 hours and only pulses 2-4 times then evens out and idles just fine(well its sounds just fine, about where should my idle be sitting? it runs to 2k on cold start then calms to about 1600. are these normal parameters?)

 

[RonJ]

i believe its the throwout because at idle, in neutral it rattles like my grammys chyrsler. and with the clutch pedal depressed, the noise is gone.

Wrong diagnosis. The noise you are hearing is a bad transmission main bearing, typically the input shaft bearing.

another symptom is being a little more difficult to shift into 1st and then between 1st and 2nd than that of my previous experience in a standard transmission fwd car.

Is the MTF level low? Have you drained the transmission and replaced with fresh Honda MTF?

about where should my idle be sitting? it runs to 2k on cold start then calms to about 1600. are these normal parameters?)

Warm idle should be 650-700 rpm.

 

[stavi]

oh joy. sounds like i have more on my plate than i had anticipated. i have not changed the mtf. i had planned on doing that when i pull the trans for the clutch(hopefully next weekend), so i don't have to do it twice. ill have to double check on the average idle. I'm not used to driving a car with a tachometer so im not used to looking. i know. no excuse for that. thanks for the heads up. very good info. ill try and keep posted on this thread as things move along.

 

[RonJ]

ill have to double check on the average idle. I'm not used to driving a car with a tachometer so im not used to looking.

You need an external tach to check/adjust the idle speed. The cluster tach is inaccurate in the low rpm range.

 

[stavi]

alright, I've got an auto meter setting around that i can hook up. thanks again