99 EX Replacement Alternator Recommendations Needed

ltkenbo

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Hello, new to the forum and am in need of a replacement alternator. I'll give you the story first though.

I have a 1999 EX Sedan. Several months ago the factory alternator went bad as my battery would no longer charge and the car died while the engine was running. So I took out the alternator myself, got a rebuilt one from Oreilly autoparts, and traded in my stock core to get the core cost back. I installed the new one, and the car seemed just fine then, measured the voltage at the battery when the car was running and it was up to normal charging voltage (like 13.9 V or something).

A week later, all of a sudden I smell a real nasty smell and notice that my battery lights and others start coming on in my cluster. I make it to my friends house where we look under the hood. The altnerator had literally like cooked and the inside widings were all black (you could see where the varnish was like melting off the wires). The car wouldn't start again because the alternator wasn't charging the battery anymore and so it was dead. So we took it back to Oreilly, and of course since it's a life time waranty they were going to give me another rebuilt unit. So I ask them first to test the "new" one on the test bench to be sure, they do, and sure enough it fails immediately. So we end up going over to another Oreilly store nearby since the store we were at didn't have any more. We pick up the new one and I install it. Car runs ok, but the voltage is kind of low.

Here's a nice pic for you of the burned up rebuild one:




A month goes by, and everything seems ok, however then one day I'm heading off to work, and all of a sudden lights start coming on in the cluster again. Then my radio turns off and the faceplate comes out like the car is off, I quickly turn around and luckily make it home as the engine is literally stopping as I pull into my apartment. So I yank the alternator back out and bring it into Oreilly again, they test it, and sure enough, it fails immediately.

So what the heck is going on here? I know that rebuilds are notorious for not rebuilding electrical parts that caused the alternator to fail in the first place, and so I'm weary about just getting another rebuild and put it back in. Oreilly tried to see if they could order an actual new unit for me, but they are not available I guess. So they pretty much told me I could get my money back if I wanted.

I thought about putting a brand new one in, but I'm not sure where or which brand to get. I could get another rebuild maybe from somewhere else, maybe a brand that's more reliable. The problem is not the battery, I had it checked to be sure and there doesn't seem to be any shorts or noticible current draw when the car is off. So I need some suggestions on which alternator I should get, and soon. I have another car, but I need to get this one running as my wife needs to use it too. Sorry if the story is kind of long, but just wanted to give any relevent details.
 

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Check fuse 15 under the dash. Make sure it's 7.5A and not any higher. At least then we'll know it's not caused by too much amperage to the alternator.

Assuming that's good, check all your grounds and make sure they have solid contact, and inspect the wiring to the alternator for damage. Before you replace it again, you should make sure that's actually the issue.
 


ltkenbo

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I didn't check that fuse this time but I did previously for the other alternators and it was intact, I'll check when I get home and verify that it's the correct value, though I'm sure I've never replaced it. I believe also that I verified continuity between the alternator wire and the positive terminal of the battery, however I can check an exact resistance reading if needed.

I noticed this time that the alternator post actually looked very oxidized and almost burnt and not shiny like before:




However, the alternator immediately failed an external test on a bench, so the alternator itself is faulty, however I am not sure what caused that fault. I will check my grounds as well, but do you think that alone could cause an alternator to fail? If so I would assume it would happen because the charging system tells the regulator to up the voltage to supply more current from the high resistance (poor) ground connection and that the alternator wouldn't be able to handle that type of load or something. What are some other external things that would cause a true good alternator to fail? I would think that either a very very high load or a short on the alternator itself would.
 

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Most manufacturers don't sell brand new units unless the car is brand new on the lot with next to no miles. They are all reman. Difference is in the brand and the company that does the rebuild. Just like everything else, you get what you pay for. If it is cheap in price, you are going to be getting a cheaply made part.

Why not go with a known good brand and get the one that honda uses? You can get them for a good price online if price is your hang up. I would definitely ditch the o'rielly's junk. You might get one eventually that is decent, but why keep wasting time?

Just because it has a lifetime warranty, it doesn't mean much if it is junk and you have to just keep replacing it. Your time has to be worth something...or maybe not, to each their own.
 


ltkenbo

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Why not go with a known good brand and get the one that honda uses? You can get them for a good price online if price is your hang up. I would definitely ditch the o'rielly's junk. You might get one eventually that is decent, but why keep wasting time?

Just because it has a lifetime warranty, it doesn't mean much if it is junk and you have to just keep replacing it. Your time has to be worth something...or maybe not, to each their own.
Lol yeah I know that's why I'm asking for suggestions, I'm not sure which alternator to get. I'd prefer to get my money back from Oreilly and get one somewhere else. Are there some brands or websites you would recommend that are reliable and won't break the bank too much? I'm looking for like $220 or less.

Edit: Did you mean to get one from the dealer or the same exact one online? Which one is that, it's Mitsubushi right?
 

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Lol yeah I know that's why I'm asking for suggestions, I'm not sure which alternator to get. I'd prefer to get my money back from Oreilly and get one somewhere else. Are there some brands or websites you would recommend that are reliable and won't break the bank too much? I'm looking for like $220 or less.

Edit: Did you mean to get one from the dealer or the same exact one online? Which one is that, it's Mitsubushi right?
Yes, Honda used Mitsubishi and Denso as well. Denso ones can be found in your price range, I believe.

Looks like Honda does use new ones but they are in the $800 range so you would need to stick to reman ones or put quite a bit more coin towards it.
 

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I buy a lot of parts from RockAuto when I'm not going OEM. They have very good aftermarket brands and in this case, are cheaper if you utilize the core return option.

On the down side of aftermarket, it IS going to be a case of you get what you pay for. The girlfriend got a rebuilt alternator for her Mustang GT on RockAuto, was bad. They swapped it out with no questions asked, paid for shipping back. Second one failed after 2 weeks, same thing, swapped no issues. Third one has been fine for 3 yrs.
 

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Yeah, I had a rebuilt one from Napa, it lasted 3 months. Second one has been good for 4+ years
 


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