Gonna buy a civic need some closure.

[ReMiXeDg]

Hi

So Im wanting to purchase a 97 EK civic stock all around manual..
I live in brooklyn ,ny in an 3 apartment building so parking can be hard because there are other small homes. I want to know if civics these days are still stolen as much as they were back in the day.

I live in bushwick nothing but thieves out here.. What could I do when I get the car to make it as secure as possible so when i wake up in the morning and if i parked around the corner my car will still be there.

I plan on using a boot in the future something like this :http://www.jegs.com/i/Trimax/431/TWL100/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710669099&CAGPSPN=pla&catargetid=230006180000849038&cadevice=c&gclid=Cj0KEQiArK6lBRC5-_jv48uxgrgBEiQAuxdZ9QHEkm4lEeOyhwFMkSx6T-w5UHempe1akmahuXMQMzAaAkoa8P8HAQ

ill also use a club on the clutch pedal.

i need to see if i can get a spot too park

 

[Bhikku]

I wouldn't think they've gotten less easy to steal, but if you are really going to take all of those precautions against theft, then i probably wouldn't stress too much about it.

 

[ReMiXeDg]

I wouldn't think they've gotten less easy to steal, but if you are really going to take all of those precautions against theft, then i probably wouldn't stress too much about it.

thanks, true that i guess if i dont worry about it but i do secure it as much as possible then for the shakes of it atleast i put up a fight lol i want to make it as hard as possible god forbid if it did happen

 

[HeX]

Im not familiar with New York but someone I knew in Brooklyn told me that '92-'00 Civics in general are still highly desired for theft in NY. In my opinion, if you suspect you may be targeted for theft then its worth to invest in an alarm. A few hundred dollars for peace of mind is far less expensive than one successful theft that could cost the total value of the car and all you've done to it.

In my opinion, a standard alarm is a waste of money since all it does is chirp away and annoy neighbors that ignore it anyways. Get a 2-way pager alarm system with a proximity sensor (when anyone gets close), glass sensor (if glass is broken), and a tilt sensor (if the car is lifted, such as with a tow truck). A remote start option (which is likely standard) is very helpful in the winter to pre-heat your car.

Brands to look for would be Clifford, Viper or Python which are all made by DEI. Some of the alarms are exactly the same except for the remote design. Their 2-way alarms tend to have an automatic kill options when not disabled by the remote. Some have a longer range than others but the range efficacy varies by its line of sight (how easily the signal can be shared between the alarm and remote).

 

[ReMiXeDg]

Im not familiar with New York but someone I knew in Brooklyn told me that '92-'00 Civics in general are still highly desired for theft in NY. In my opinion, if you suspect you may be targeted for theft then its worth to invest in an alarm. A few hundred dollars for peace of mind is far less expensive than one successful theft that could cost the total value of the car and all you've done to it.

In my opinion, a standard alarm is a waste of money since all it does is chirp away and annoy neighbors that ignore it anyways. Get a 2-way pager alarm system with a proximity sensor (when anyone gets close), glass sensor (if glass is broken), and a tilt sensor (if the car is lifted, such as with a tow truck). A remote start option (which is likely standard) is very helpful in the winter to pre-heat your car.

Brands to look for would be Clifford, Viper or Python which are all made by DEI. Some of the alarms are exactly the same except for the remote design. Their 2-way alarms tend to have an automatic kill options when not disabled by the remote. Some have a longer range than others but the range efficacy varies by its line of sight (how easily the signal can be shared between the alarm and remote).

Thanks for the long post i love long post lots of information :

I will def. get a nice alarm with all those features you listed and kill switch inside the car here there. might just go with small boot. i do repo and trust me i take cars every night most new cars dont have alarms its crazy because i can take a car with a flatbed in a driveway or infront a home and no one will come out but in the bx where there are buildings try towing a mdx , altima or camry and you'll see the whole building outside lol.


lil rant there.

where i live where most of the parking is there is a police camera but that dont work they once stole cameras off my tow truck they scan plates and they cops didnt do anything with the film and they were worth about 10k now i know better to leave them on the truck or car .

ill def. look into that alarm thanks a lot. cheers

got any tips on how to wire a hidden back up battery

 

[lethal6]

As long as they remain cheap and popular, they will be targets of thieves. Hondas are very easy to steal and they have been targets for so long, even the most amateur of thieves can handle the task.

Doing as much as you can to prevent it will discourage the minor ones, but unfortunately if they really want it nothing short of locking it up in your living room (impossible I know) will stop them. The way around the boot, alarm, clutch lock, etc is to get a tow truck with an arm, pluck it right out of it's parking spot, and roll out. The trucks are easy to get a hold of and the ones with the articulating arms can dig a car out of a tight parking spot in mere seconds.

If your area is that high on theft, I would recommend getting a good insurance, do all you can to discourage the minor thieves, put a lowjack type system on it, and call it a day. If it does get nabbed, you are covered for replacement by the insurance company. This can be expensive, but it is a LOT cheaper than replacing it out of pocket if it happens.

The alarm system Hex ran through is an excellent idea. The only thing I would steer clear against in NY (or any other major city for that matter) is the proximity sensor. There is too many people close by at all times and the constant "pressure" to the sensor would be setting it off all the time. In a matter of a couple hours of constant false alarms, it would end up becoming the "boy who cried wolf" and no one would give it a second look if it were actually in danger.

That and you run the risk of vandalism from the people that are tired of an alarm going off all the time.

 

[HeX]

Thanks for the long post i love long post lots of information :

got any tips on how to wire a hidden back up battery

Its my pleasure to help. A good back-up battery mounting location will vary on the exact measurements of the battery purchased and on your skill level or sheer motivation. My philosophy is to place it somewhere virtually invisible and difficult to get to, such as behind panels, under the dash, etc. This will vary on the car being a coupe or sedan. Get creative and plan it out.

The alarm system Hex ran through is an excellent idea. The only thing I would steer clear against in NY (or any other major city for that matter) is the proximity sensor. There is too many people close by at all times and the constant "pressure" to the sensor would be setting it off all the time. In a matter of a couple hours of constant false alarms, it would end up becoming the "boy who cried wolf" and no one would give it a second look if it were actually in danger.

That and you run the risk of vandalism from the people that are tired of an alarm going off all the time.

All your points are accurate, Lethal6. However, given that proximity sensors are basically standard with every alarm, he might as well install it and set it to low sensitivity that will only go off if someone is right on the glass. You can request to have the proximity sensor control unit be installed somewhere you are comfortable getting to in the event that you want to perhaps momentarily adjust the sensitivity. It doesnt hurt to have options. I personally readjusted mine over several weeks before I reached what I deem as the perfect sensitivity.

 

[lethal6]

All your points are accurate, Lethal6. However, given that proximity sensors are basically standard with every alarm, he might as well install it and set it to low sensitivity that will only go off if someone is right on the glass. You can request to have the proximity sensor control unit be installed somewhere you are comfortable getting to in the event that you want to perhaps momentarily adjust the sensitivity. It doesnt hurt to have options. I personally readjusted mine over several weeks before I reached what I deem as the perfect sensitivity.

It definitely doesn't hurt to have options and I see where someone might want that feature. I personally can't stand proximity sensor, so I have disabled them or removed them on every install of my own vehicle that I have done. I personally don't see the need for them if you have glass break sensors, interior monitoring, and tilt/vibration sensors. Last thing I want is to go running outside when ever the damn neighbor cat wants to lay on a nice warm hood. You can turn down the sensitivity so it won't go off when it does, but then what is the point of having it?

 

[ReMiXeDg]

It definitely doesn't hurt to have options and I see where someone might want that feature. I personally can't stand proximity sensor, so I have disabled them or removed them on every install of my own vehicle that I have done. I personally don't see the need for them if you have glass break sensors, interior monitoring, and tilt/vibration sensors. Last thing I want is to go running outside when ever the damn neighbor cat wants to lay on a nice warm hood. You can turn down the sensitivity so it won't go off when it does, but then what is the point of having it?

i short of agree..

Im most likely going to get a good alarm system install with a back up battery and extra siren hidden etc cut off switch.

what about wheels and security these days?

are wheel locks good if i do get a set of shoes should i use like 2 different wheel locks or is one good?

 

[lethal6]

Wheels are a tough one because to make a lock good enough, it makes it a huge pain in the ass to change a tire, put a spare on, rotate, etc. I haven't met very many wheel locks that I can't bust with my bolt extractor set or a socket hammered on. Not to mention there is one basic "key" to the tuner locks that most shops sell. I have a master key in my toolbox that I bought from the local tire shop.

*disclaimer* I don't steal wheels, I am talking from experience at work (been around the car business most of my adult life). We get a lot of trade in or auction cars with no wheel lock key.

 

[ReMiXeDg]

Wheels are a tough one because to make a lock good enough, it makes it a huge pain in the ass to change a tire, put a spare on, rotate, etc. I haven't met very many wheel locks that I can't bust with my bolt extractor set or a socket hammered on. Not to mention there is one basic "key" to the tuner locks that most shops sell. I have a master key in my toolbox that I bought from the local tire shop.

*disclaimer* I don't steal wheels, I am talking from experience at work (been around the car business most of my adult life). We get a lot of trade in or auction cars with no wheel lock key.

but i could still get like 2 sets to put up a fight? i dont mind haaving a hassle removing them as long as they will come off i'd rather be safe than sorry. and id rather give up a fight over anything before giving up

i just hit up a person who is renting a garage out asking 250 a month pretty steep i am going to try to get it for 2 bills a month

 

[HeX]

You can turn down the sensitivity so it won't go off when it does, but then what is the point of having it?

The point is he has options to consider. I only explained potential options.

but i could still get like 2 sets to put up a fight? i dont mind haaving a hassle removing them as long as they will come off i'd rather be safe than sorry. and id rather give up a fight over anything before giving up

The best anyone can do is to make them difficult to steal. Thieves are deterred when time becomes an issue.

i just hit up a person who is renting a garage out asking 250 a month pretty steep i am going to try to get it for 2 bills a month

I'm so glad Ive never had to consider renting a car space. Its unfortunate you must consider it.

 

[ReMiXeDg]

The point is he has options to consider. I only explained potential options.



The best anyone can do is to make them difficult to steal. Thieves are deterred when time becomes an issue.



I'm so glad Ive never had to consider renting a car space. Its unfortunate you must consider it.

yea i def need to consider getting a spot if i get a civic.

My area is bad, you got people killing random cops , i aint into the honda scene yet neither do i want to be in it i just like the look of the car and i def know when i do get a nice civic i will have many haters and people who will let others know etc. im praying to god hopefully the church across the street from me the owner a lady hopefully shell let me rent a spot in the back behind a gate.

 

[pantyraid]

At least it's a standard transmission, which apparently are less likely to be stolen just because a lot of people can't drive them (actually a friend of mine's dipshit ex boyfriend learned how to drive stick because he stole a manual trans vehicle and had to get out of there, but I'm sure he's one of very few success stories, if you could call him a success story... he did at least know how to drive pretty well but that was about it) but regardless, if you google it you can find countless stories of people who found their stick shift vehicles like halfway down the block abandoned because somebody tried to steal them and then gave up haha

 

[XpL0d3r]

I will def. get a nice alarm with all those features you listed and kill switch inside the car.

Kill switch is a great idea. Best $6 anti-theft device out there lol. Just find a sneaky hiding spot. If you want to be crafty, wire two switches.

Now that my Civic is gone, I can disclose my location... simply had it underneath the center console towards the back. I removed the two rear screws from the center console, which underneath the storage bucket thing, so it actually would lift up slightly. Hid the switch under there, ran the wires straight to the fuel pump.

Of course, if a thief knew to look for it, he could follow the wire and find the switch, but anything helps.

And it works well! I've fooled myself a few times.. I'd forget I had it "on", so I'd start my car only to have it die a few seconds after.

 

[lethal6]

Kill switch is a great idea. Best $6 anti-theft device out there lol. Just find a sneaky hiding spot. If you want to be crafty, wire two switches.

Now that my Civic is gone, I can disclose my location... simply had it underneath the center console towards the back. I removed the two rear screws from the center console, which underneath the storage bucket thing, so it actually would lift up slightly. Hid the switch under there, ran the wires straight to the fuel pump.

Of course, if a thief knew to look for it, he could follow the wire and find the switch, but anything helps.

And it works well! I've fooled myself a few times.. I'd forget I had it "on", so I'd start my car only to have it die a few seconds after.

Have hidden them in a quite a few places. I have had kill switches in every vehicle I have owned up until my current GLi. It has a factory kill switch with coded keys and immobilizer. Don't need it, it's built in.

My civic was actually wired so you had to turn the left blinker on for the kill switch to deactivate. It was that way when I bought it from my buddies wife. It took me a long time to ditch the habit of turning the blinker on when starting my GLi after the civic was totaled.