"The Mothership" - 1998 Civic - Maintenance Log

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Bummer. but as long as everything lines up properly, it's an easy fix.

any weld shop can knock it out in about 20 min.
just make sure to test fit everything on the car first.

nothing more frustrating than having to redo the welds
 

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nothing more frustrating than having to redo the welds
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Another look through the boxes revealed a flange ready to be welded! I picked up an adapter tube from the local auto parts store and started figuring out how this would work.
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With all of the other exhaust pieces mounted to the car, I held the cat in place, and it fit between the header downpipe and catback flange perfectly. So I should just make the new adapter + flange equal the same length as the existing cat, right? (Editor's note: NO!)

Armed with an angle grinder and my old mini-oxy torch welder, I got to work.

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I got this far before I ran out of acetylene.

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Rather than dump another $70 of acetylene into finishing the second ring weld, I pivoted to FCAW. This little Harbor Fright jalopy did surprisingly well.
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It ain't pretty, but it's done!
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... Until I went to install it. I had forgotten that the rounded gasket on the header pipe goes into the receiving flange. Almost an inch short. I couldn't justify pulling the rubber mounts that much, the cat was going to have to be re-welded...
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It turns out the section I'd cut off of the adapter tube to make it fit originally was the right size to now weld back on... Everything would have worked if I'd just left it alone the first time...
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The Frankenstein's exhaust flange:
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But it fits now!
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I went for a little test drive. The new exhaust setup is fairly deep and very subtle. I love it.

Over the past decade and change this car's gone from sounding like it had rocks in the transmission to a refined purring. It's been a lot of work, but we've come a long way.
 


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I currently have this exact same issue with my 1320 header for the CRV. I ended up putting a high flow-cat on the CRV to get rid of the raspiness. I had to cut the flange and ended up with the same offset alignment issue. I ending using a long set of skinny grade 8 bolts. Those eventually found there off my CRV somewhere coming down from Lee Canyon from snowboarding all day long.

I have it temporarily resolved right now and I am too ashamed to share how it is temporarily resolve for the moment. Because moment has turned into several months now :rolf:
 


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Because moment has turned into several months now
Boy do I feel that haha.

One thing I didn't anticipate with this job is that the new muffler interfered with the hitch that was mounted under the trunk. So it had to come off :???:

I'm about to get new tires, and want an alignment too. Read online that I should use a wire wheel and get all the rust crud off the wheel mounting surface beforehand so that it can't interfere with the alignment, so I did that as best I could. Before I put the wheels back on, I noticed that one of the brake drums in the rear was looser than the other on the hub. Turns out it's mounting holes are ~0.5mm larger than the other drum, and allows it to slide around and make a clicking noise very similar to the clicking I've been hearing while braking for the past year....
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I cut some coke can shims, and got it so that the drum wouldn't click anymore. Still hear the clicking while stopping though. In retrospect I'm not surprised, if the drum was sliding around I'd see evidence of the wear on the surfaces...
 

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Went back out for another look, and noticed the wheel cylinder was leaking.
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I absolutely hate these things. The originals lasted 20 years, and ever since I've had to replace the garbage aftermarket ones almost every year because they keep failing.

Cleaned things up and bought a new wheel cylinder. I swapped the brake shoes left-right and buffed the friction surface with some sand paper to get rid of the oil and junk.

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I also hit the contact points with a wire wheel to get rid of any rust. Put some caliper grease on and then did the swear word dance to get the springs and everything reassembled.

It's too soon to know if that fixed the clicking, since the pads need to wear back in and the parking break auto-adjuster is too loose. But for the moment the annoying clicking is gone. At the very least it proves the issue is in that brake assembly, and not the suspension or something.
 

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Luckily you can still get OE brake cylinder rebuild kits from Honda still. I have found that they are the ONLY ones that wont leak after service. also recommend getting a tiny cylinder hone for the brake cylinders and just run it through a few times to get rid of any gouging that may exist. I find that this tends to resolve any future leaks caused by the plunger gasket failing In the future.
 

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Mmmm, golden toasty.
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Just for kicks, I thought this was cool:
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I suspect the water pump is going out. If I'm stuck in stop-and-go traffic for too long, the engine temperature needle will start to creep up. But if I rev the engine above 2.5k RPM for a few seconds, it will immediately start going back down. Similarly once the gauge shows the engine has reached temperature, if I'm stopped at a light and turn on the cabin heat, only cold air blows until the car is moving again.

Seems to me that the impeller blades are mostly eroded away, so it needs more RPM to push any water around.
 

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Before diving into the nightmare that is the water pump, check your coolant level, and fully bleed the system (pressure/vaccum bleed if possible)...
No heat is usually the first sign that coolant is low, and if it gets low enough, you'll run into the same issues you're experiencing.

Sure, a failing water pump could be the cause of the coolant loss (little by little out of the weep hole), but it could be something else.
 

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Before diving into the nightmare that is the water pump, check your coolant level, and fully bleed the system (pressure/vaccum bleed if possible)...
No heat is usually the first sign that coolant is low, and if it gets low enough, you'll run into the same issues you're experiencing.

Sure, a failing water pump could be the cause of the coolant loss (little by little out of the weep hole), but it could be something else.
You called it 100%.

Damn, I even knew it was leaking, and saw the water pump blades pretty recently. And I had witness paper-towels wrapped on the coolant hoses, which successfully detected the leak. It's probably not fair to blame this on the Mishimoto radiator, but this constant leak from either the cap or upper joint has been a pain.

Filled the radiator and reservoir back up, and everything is back to normal.
 

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Glad to be of service...

Thanks to all my years in the frozen tundra, I've become painfully familiar with the effects of low coolant, or a stuck open thermostat...
Nothing quite like losing heat, when it's -20 outside.
 

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one other thing... are you using reducers in the coolant hoses?

Been a while, but i seem to remember the civic radiator having smaller than normal flanges.
Without the reducers, the hoses weep like crazy, no matter how tight you clamp them.
 

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one other thing... are you using reducers in the coolant hoses?

Been a while, but i seem to remember the civic radiator having smaller than normal flanges.
Without the reducers, the hoses weep like crazy, no matter how tight you clamp them.
I haven't been, will check it out. I've probably been running under the assumption that if it's a PITA to install the hose, then it's extra sealed.
 

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Glad to be of service...

Thanks to all my years in the frozen tundra, I've become painfully familiar with the effects of low coolant, or a stuck open thermostat...
Nothing quite like losing heat, when it's -20 outside.
Had this issue cause the CRV radiator to pop in -20ish driving from Olympic, Oregon back to Boise, Idaho after a night of poker. Ended up in the back of the CRV for about 4 hours, luckily I had the dogs bed in the back and a ton of blankets.
 

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I haven't been, will check it out. I've probably been running under the assumption that if it's a PITA to install the hose, then it's extra sealed.
The hose should have a friction fit at the radiator.
tight enough that you could run the engine at idle, without a hose clamp.

Here's a closeup of mine. you can see the reducer in the end. notice there is zero flex on the hose itself.






The oem hoses were likely molded to the exact size, but aftermarket "one size fits all" hoses are a single size to allow them to be trimmed to fit.

Pretty sure my sub $50 Spectra radiator included the reducers.
 


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